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    1. #1
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      Bill,

      I installed an oil cooler and accusump 3 winters ago. The inaugural Motorstate event changed my build drastically. Back then the Mobil 1 I was running thinned out big time. I believe my oil system is up to par, its the cooling system that allowed the engine temp to exceed normal racing parameters. When tracking a car an oil cooler and temp gauge are a must!!

      Matt
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      A.K.A. " BIG " by wife, biatch in garage.

      1969 RS Camaro L92 T56 Quadra-link, CW sub, Ford 9" a progressive build.

      Ex track car: 1995 Camaro LS1 T56

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      Quote Originally Posted by Bow Tie 67 View Post
      Bill,

      I installed an oil cooler and accusump 3 winters ago. The inaugural Motorstate event changed my build drastically. Back then the Mobil 1 I was running thinned out big time. I believe my oil system is up to par, its the cooling system that allowed the engine temp to exceed normal racing parameters. When tracking a car an oil cooler and temp gauge are a must!!

      Matt
      Matt, you're right. I have an oil temp gauge in my dash, but was hoping to avoid an oil cooler. Motor State had me concerned, though the oil never really got unreasonably hot - assuming I'd change oil after the event anyway. Heidts absolutely convinced me that I need a cooler. The fact that my block is bottom filled to the freeze plugs creates a real oil temp concern. But, it's all a trade-off. I have to essentially fabricate a fixture for my block that can route the lines up and forward without conflicting with the headers, firewall or inner fender. Then I need to change my oil filter setup from the frame rail to forward, then install a couple bulkhead fittings, and figure out how/where to mount the cooler. I also need to determine -10 or -12 lines select the right cooler, and then watch oil pressure to hope that I don't need to put a different oil pump in. Isn't this stuff fun?
      '66 GTO Vert Project "Red Ink", 462ci of stroked pontiac power, TKO600, SC&C Stg II+, Tubular lowers, Currectrac Rear suspension, Moser 12bolt w/Truetrack, Wilwood Master and discs all around, too much fun for words...

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      Thanks guys, the red light was my oil temp, peak recall was 298* and the warning was set at 280*. I'm in the process of finding a new radiator as the stock 4th gen cooling had met its match with my increased driving skills and the 96* weather. When I get a chance I will upload some go-pro video of the later sessions, 1.5 seconds faster. Now if I could get a look at some in-car of Stielow I could compare. I'm sure of one area on the track were I can pick up some good time.
      Matt


      Current project: " Chain Reaction "

      A.K.A. " BIG " by wife, biatch in garage.

      1969 RS Camaro L92 T56 Quadra-link, CW sub, Ford 9" a progressive build.

      Ex track car: 1995 Camaro LS1 T56

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      Matt, I struggled with oil temp as well. Today I just pulled my front bumper and grills off in preparation for adding an oil cooler. I'll have to do some fabrication just to get my oil lines forward.
      '66 GTO Vert Project "Red Ink", 462ci of stroked pontiac power, TKO600, SC&C Stg II+, Tubular lowers, Currectrac Rear suspension, Moser 12bolt w/Truetrack, Wilwood Master and discs all around, too much fun for words...

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      Nice video Matt, I can see where you picked up the 1.5 sec. over me. If I would have been able to go to my redline in 3rd I could have easily done a 1:15. Several of the turns you were able to pick up way more speed in between and pick it up. The 1:17.5 was where I was kind of limited to with power and I was picking up even more in the turns by just not slowing down as much each lap getting braver and braver.

      My oil temps never went above 265 degrees and came down real quickly on the cool down lap. My ps temps went to 265 also and it made me nervous since it was where the rack blew the seal at MSC but it held up, I have a cooler ready to go in soon.

      I know of one place you could have picked up 5 mph in the main straight and it doesn't seem logical until you just mash the gas all the way down in the next to last corner before and hold on and make the line straighter, it really helped me a lot when I figured it out.

      I really like the track because you can pick up time every lap just by not braking and staying on the gas easier each time along with longer apexes.

      I'm gonna have to go to youtube and resign back up so O can post some of my videos too! But I have to pull the intake now and clean the injectors to see if the high end miss goes away. If it isn't one thing it is another.
      May The Horsepower Be With You !!!

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      There are a few videos on youtube from the event now and it looks like they have so much good footage that it is probably hard for them to decide what to cut and not to cut.

      I am looking forward to what we are going to get when we get it but I am jonesn for all I can get to see.
      May The Horsepower Be With You !!!

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      You guys did great!! After riding shotgun with James in the OLC for his last session, I learned a much better line into that double/late apex corner before the long back straight. You see, there's two dark sections of pavement, not just the one I saw when I ran earlier <insert lit lightbulb here and a "duh" for good measure>.

      The Camaro is getting back on track. Cannot wait for more of this stuff and especially for next years event.

      Mary Pozzi
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      Matt,

      Just watched your video. I am not sure what you did in later sessions, but I was shifting to 4th gear between turns 2 and 3 so the car would not be as twitchy through 3, 4 and 5. But then again you ran faster than me with your best of the day, so who's to say if my approach was right, but it seemed to make me faster. Interestingly in the Spec Miata I was carrying a lower gear there and one of my competitors who is a member at Autobahn gave me that advice.

      I told Randy Johnson to shift earlier and let the torque carry him through-there was no need to wind it up to 7000. He came back and said he picked up some time that way.
      Jeff

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      I know my gearing is way different than you guys and I was in third most all of the time except for the straight before the curves into the main straght, that part had me needing to step up because the rpm's weren't there for me. I could have used my extra 1000rpm that the fuel problem was taking from me but it seemed that I only really needed 4th for the main straight when the car gets to go to redline.

      With my 3rd gear and the 6400 redline I would have been just topping out at each corner and my accelleration would have been way better. i could have made the shift earlier in the main straght and made it to 115mph or more. Because I don't have to shift up I also get the extra engine braking without a down shift.

      I think Matt's ratios are closer to mine in the midrange so it seems. I was following him for a few laps and he was accellerating at about the same rate in those 2 spots as I was and pulled me in the straights with rpm and a bunch more power.

      You guys with all that big torque and HP make it seem effortless to accelerate out of the corners in a higher gear but I just can't do that,lol.

      Just for the facts, I have a 3:07 rear and a 1:59 3rd and a 1:23 4th with a 26"tire.

      at my normal redline I can go to 95-100 mph in 3rd and 130mph in 4th and with my high end miss I was just reaching 85mph in 3rd and in the main straight I was reaching only 105 mph before having to brake for the 1st - 2nd turn. I found I could brake all the way into and through the 1st turn right up to turn 2.
      May The Horsepower Be With You !!!

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      Matt, I just saw the video, too cool! You looked like you were just out for a fast Sunday drive, your car was so well behaved! What kind of gauges are you running? It be nice not to have to get out the reading glasses to see what's going on. I want a ride next time we run an event together. Your car looks and sounds great!
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      Jim, don't forget that some of us "big torque" also have "big weight". I struggle with the same issues. Sure, I'm making at least 500lbs of torque right off idle and am never ever below 500 anywhere in my torque curve, usually more in the 600 range. However, with me in the car and a full tank of fuel, and the rollbars, I'm well over 4000lbs. Honestly, for most of us I think it evens the playing field. For guys like Stielow who have both the torque/hp advantage and a much more manageable weight it's a far different story!
      '66 GTO Vert Project "Red Ink", 462ci of stroked pontiac power, TKO600, SC&C Stg II+, Tubular lowers, Currectrac Rear suspension, Moser 12bolt w/Truetrack, Wilwood Master and discs all around, too much fun for words...

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      I finally tried that in the last session as well. It didn't make a huge dent in my times, but it sure made driving through that first corner after the straightaway a lot easier, and allowed me to focus on other things...
      Scott Parkhurst


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      Here's a short video of two my laps. Car was pretty good especially considering I was running stock suspension & brakes:

      http://www.facebook.com/#!/video/vid...=1823380475582

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      ^^^^Like Jim said ---------- Hey Heidt's people, where's the video??? Just went on your website........'nuttin

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      Great video Jim! Man, that was sooo much fun! Ive got to get a in car camera. They really capture the feel of the action. Your car looks like it runs great. Thanks for posting!
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      Hey Jim, I called Heidt's during my lunch today and spoke to Ron in sales. I asked about the video and he did not know the status of it but was going to ask his marketing guy who will be back into the office tomorrow..............I'll post up again!

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      ........I never got a callback from Heidt's. I'll make a follow up call on Tuesday.

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      It is very possible that Heidts had the video crew there for their own purposes and never planned to release anything. ridetech had a crew at last year's Faceoff at Road America and I don't remember seeing anything released from there either.
      Jeff

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      Quote Originally Posted by Van B View Post
      It is very possible that Heidts had the video crew there for their own purposes and never planned to release anything. ridetech had a crew at last year's Faceoff at Road America and I don't remember seeing anything released from there either.
      Yes Jeff, but Heidt's was saying immediately after the event that a video would be released "in a couple weeks", so that what we are going off of.

      I'll do a follow up call tomorrow and ask for Wallace if need be.

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      the video mystery continues....I talked with Brian (?) in sales on Thursday. The video is (allegedly) coming. He told me to call in a "couple weeks". SO, we'll see.

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