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    1. #1
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      Quote Originally Posted by bret View Post
      As Darren said, we have not specifically tried that combination, but I don't see why there would be a problem. I assume that you are talking about the DSE system that cuts out the oem upper shock mount and inserts a bracket to use an eye mount shock instead of the stud mount shock like we use? As long as teh oem upper control arm location is not molested you should be fine.
      Bret you are talking about the ATS upper mount, i have that on my nova. The DSE upper mount set up, you cut the factory upper a arm mount off and install a new upper control arm mount. The new DSE mount holes are dropped about 5/8 or 3/4". so with the upper control arm mount dropped and tall spindle wont you have a bunch of neg camber gain?

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      As for DSE control arms. i have DSE control arms,ATS upper coilover mount with the tru turn, but i had DSE coilovers(double adjustable, and to fit them i had to modify them) and switched to ridetech coilovers(and when i went to ridetech's i had to make new spacers)

      If you dont have control arms and your looking at the tru turn, just buy the Ridetech arms, then everything is made to work together. I had the arms and made them work.
      1972 Nova Ridetech, Forgeline, Falken Tires, Wilwood, Bowler Performance Transmission, Lingenfelter Performance Engineering.

    2. #2
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      Ah, i thought you were referring to using their arms and such. If it's just the upper shock mount that changed then it shoulddn't be a problem.

    3. #3
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      This looks like a great product and an easy way to upgrade my factory spindles. Is there a template available to verify fitment with headers? I am running a gen1 SBC with the Headmen Hustler 1 7/8" primary tubes and was concerned about fitment.

      Thanks
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      Gold/Gray 1967 Camaro

    4. #4
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      Quote Originally Posted by nicks67camaro View Post
      This looks like a great product and an easy way to upgrade my factory spindles. Is there a template available to verify fitment with headers? I am running a gen1 SBC with the Headmen Hustler 1 7/8" primary tubes and was concerned about fitment.

      Thanks
      From the pictures I've seen, if the headers are farther back than the drop in the oil pan, you're PROBABLY safe. Mine should be here this week, I plan to review it and give some measurements to help identify what headers will fit if one of the ridetech guys don't beat me to it.
      Dan
      1968 Camaro v2
      LS6 :: Viper T56 :: C5 Brakes :: Hotchkis Suspension


    5. #5
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      What learned installing the ridetech spindles last night:

      1. For Wilwood brakes - make sure you kept the upper brake bracket spacer and the longer bolt supplied in your Wilwood kit. You'll need it!
      2. Turning the seal backwards is mandatory. In fact, looking at my factory spindles, I probably should've turned it backwards for them too. It was sealing right at the edge of the sealing surface.
      3. Fit and finish are great! I had ZERO problems.

      Also, I wanted to say thanks for including the necessary bolts and cotter pins to make the swap. This small detail made all the difference in the world. I was most especially pleased to see a bolt in the bag for the adapter bracket meant for Wilwood and Baer brake setups. Thanks ridetech - you guys definitely have my future business for suspension parts!

      One last thing - how about producing a lower strong arm for 1st gen Camaros that uses the factory style spring? I want to keep my Hotchkis springs - I'm not a fan of coil overs (maybe I can be convinced otherwise but not right now).

      Thanks!!
      GeoffP
      68 Camaro - LS1/T-56

    6. #6
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      Bump for a template to check header fitment.

      And a quick question. I've got the Hotchkis 2" drop springs, will those springs and the drop from this kit be too much?

      I love low, but I don't want to make sparks every time I go over a speedbump...
      Matt

      69 Nova - 357, TKO600, Tru Turn, some other stuff, awaiting LS1 swap
      71 Duster - all stock, slant 6, automatic. awaiting HEMI/T56 swap

    7. #7
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      I can answer the quick question about your springs with the ridetech spindles: Yes it will be too low unless you have done mods to your fender wells. I put a 1/2" coil spring spacer under my Hotchkis coils with the ridetech spindles - it put the ride height spot on where a 245/45-17 tucks just about level with the wheel opening. I didn't have any rubbing problems on the track or autocross at RTOS. I haven't noticed any more rubbing than I already had previously except if I miss dodging a pot hole.
      GeoffP
      68 Camaro - LS1/T-56

    8. #8
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      Why is there a tru turn kit for the 64-66 mustang and not for the 67-70? What is the difference?
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      65 mustang HT no name
      67 mustang HT red rocket

    9. #9
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      We have had the upper and Lower StrongArms for the 67-70 Mustangs for several years. That kit did incorporate the dropped cross shaft, but it used the stock spindles and steering components.

    10. #10
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      The Tru Turn for the earlier 64-66 Mustang incorporates the StrongArm tubular control arms [with a dropped cross shaft], a taller ridetech spindle to optimize camber gain and ackerman, and a drag link bracket that eliminates bumpsteer. The current system for the 67-70 Mustang uses the StrongArms, but interfaces with the oem Mustang spindle and makes no changes in the steering geometry. When we do the actual Tru Turn for the 67-70 Mustang it will incorporate all the extra features of the 64-66 Mustang Tru Turn system.
      Having said all that, our current StrongArm system for the 67-70 Mustang works quite well with the TCP rack system that will allow you to optimize the bumpsteer. We have not yet worked with any other rack system out there.
      My own 69 Mustang has our off the shelf StrongArm system with TA series ShockWaves and a TCP power rack. It drives and handles quite well...some might say a bit beyond that .
      The reason that we have not yet done an actual Tru Turn system for the 67-70 Mustang is that the spindle/steering arm [and aftermarket brake options] are much better than the earlier cars and do not impose the handling compromises of the earlier cars. There are improvements to be made, just not the huge ones that the earlier cars need.

      But...we will be doing an actual Tru Turn system for the 67-70 Mustang in the next 12 months. It will incorporate the ridetech spindle and steering geometry improvements of the earlier Mustang system to make those 67-70 cars even better!
      Bret Voelkel
      Director of Innovation Fox Powered Vehicles Group
      Founder/ Former Owner
      RideTech/Air Ride Technologies, Inc.

      How do you spell Impossible?

    11. #11
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      Thank you ridetech guys
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      65 mustang HT no name
      67 mustang HT red rocket

    12. #12
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      We have had major success with the Tru Turn...thanks to ridetech for putting out a great, yet simple system that makes a HUGE difference on the F bodys!!!

      Matt
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    13. #13
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      Any chance the TruTurn installed pictures can be reposted? It appears they've been pulled down. I was hoping to look them over since I'm getting pretty serious about ordering some ridetech parts very soon.
      GeoffP
      68 Camaro - LS1/T-56

    14. #14
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      Quote Originally Posted by GeoffP View Post
      Any chance the TruTurn installed pictures can be reposted? It appears they've been pulled down. I was hoping to look them over since I'm getting pretty serious about ordering some ridetech parts very soon.
      What kinda pic would you like to see? I have it on my car, and can get pics for you.
      1972 Nova Ridetech, Forgeline, Falken Tires, Wilwood, Bowler Performance Transmission, Lingenfelter Performance Engineering.

    15. #15
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      Quote Originally Posted by Bad94 View Post
      What kinda pic would you like to see? I have it on my car, and can get pics for you.
      What size wheel & tire are you running?
      Thanks Eric

    16. #16
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      Quote Originally Posted by GeoffP View Post
      Any chance the TruTurn installed pictures can be reposted? It appears they've been pulled down. I was hoping to look them over since I'm getting pretty serious about ordering some ridetech parts very soon.
      I have TT with Dynatech headers on a TSP LS3 and a T56. We had to put spacers under the frame motor mounts but the headers cleared the TT. I used S&P conversion plates with energy suspension mounts. I had ATS plates but S&P plates raised the motor up more. I am running 18x9.5 wheels with 265s. I will post pics once the wheels are mounted.


    17. #17
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      I was looking for the pictures that ridetech had posted of the 48 Hour Camaro in this thread. I wanted to get a look at the location of the tie rod with the new steering arms to make sure my Wilwood calipers aren't going to have any clearance issues.
      GeoffP
      68 Camaro - LS1/T-56

    18. #18
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      Quote Originally Posted by eric1967 View Post
      What size wheel & tire are you running?
      Thanks Eric
      Im running a 18x9.5 with a 275.


      Quote Originally Posted by GeoffP View Post
      I was looking for the pictures that ridetech had posted of the 48 Hour Camaro in this thread. I wanted to get a look at the location of the tie rod with the new steering arms to make sure my Wilwood calipers aren't going to have any clearance issues.
      I will get some pics of the steering arm for you.
      1972 Nova Ridetech, Forgeline, Falken Tires, Wilwood, Bowler Performance Transmission, Lingenfelter Performance Engineering.

    19. #19
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      Anybody running the TT kit with Doug's 368 long tube headers? Any clearance issues?
      Jeff

      69 Camaro build, body & paint by West Coast Auto Craft

      Build thread http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/show...ght=brownstone

      Lateral-g Feature http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=44186

      Thanks to Matt's Classic Bowties and Pro-Touring.com

    20. #20
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      Pulled the trigger on the complete kit with spindles to replace the Heidts I had bought. Went to the shop today and found out the Doug's headers I have won't work. The pitman arm hits one of the tubes on the driver side header when turned to the left. No big deal, just need to cut the turned and have the header re coated.

      Will say the kit is top notch.

      Quote Originally Posted by Napaz28 View Post
      Anybody running the TT kit with Doug's 368 long tube headers? Any clearance issues?
      Jeff

      69 Camaro build, body & paint by West Coast Auto Craft

      Build thread http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/show...ght=brownstone

      Lateral-g Feature http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=44186

      Thanks to Matt's Classic Bowties and Pro-Touring.com

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