PHR: ATS spindle ad

[nkopper]

For those of you who haven't seen the badass ATS upright for 1st gen Camaros, see their ad on page 100 of the August PHR.

Nathan

[mdprovee]

I'm still waiting for my magazince to get here. I'll have to yell at the the postman to hurry up.

Mike

[BA.]

Got my PHR a few days ago. Ad looks great!!

I've lost the thread announcing the spindle. :( gotta look again.

Are they taking orders yet? I didn't see anything on their website. <<insert little yellow guy scratching his head>>

EDIT: ok, found the thread, that wasn't too hard. Looks like it just kinda died..... I need a set!

[parsonsj]

Congrats to the ATS folks. I hope you sell a bunch of 'em!

jp

[TitoJones]

Well, I guess the cat is out of the bag on what they look like. I'll have Shane post up the 3d image of the final spindle, with all the cool guy stuff on it.
Until then- Check the attachment for our advertisment in PHR/Super Chevy
Link to the AFX spindle thread:
https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/sh...ht=AFX+spindle

Tyler

[David Pozzi]

Wow!
Looks great!

[wickedmotorhead]

Here is the final design for the Tall version after we made the engineering changes for draft angles and radii. I will post the stock height version next. We are also putting together a technical write up. We are still finalizing the last details for the end pricing but we will address that as well very soon. I can tell you it will be very competitive to the other spindles coming to market. Our initial forging vendor was unable to obtain die steel to meet the original lead time we had hoped for, so unfortunately we had to switch vendors in order to recoupe some time. We are currently in production and should see final products in 6-8 weeks and I can assure you it will be worth the wait.

[Rick Dorion]

Great ad! I'm not sure I can do another 1" drop and have enough road clearance unless I add a spacer or go to landrum adusters, etc. Currentl have the GW front springs. Hmm. In the past there's been much discussion about the Pro-motorsports spindle extenders being too tall - 2". Your one version is 1.4. If someone has the Gul Mod we're back in that range or will that combo be taboo? Perhaps this can be addressed in your FAQ.

[MoeBawlz]

I like the solid model images, very cool... best of luck to you on sales. im sure you guys will make a killing in the market.

[Steve68]

Saw it a couple hours ago, You think Tyler and the boys would have given us first crack at buying some,

So who's going to buy some first and give us some hard experience with them, I had to put my disc spindles back on my car I need to roll it around,

Maybe before I by the adapters, I'll know the price of them???

[wickedmotorhead]

Here's a couple pics of the stock height spindle. We will be updating the website in the next couple days with the correct tech information to further answer any of your questions.

[HWYSTR]

I talked to Tyler reagrding the possibility of doing a spindle for the 2nd gen f-bodies, and he basically said if there was enough of an interest, he would do it. He's going to look at a factory spindle, see if he can make the existing one work with mods, without having to go back to the drawing board. To do one from the ground up would require about 250-400 pairs to sell to warrant production. So, I ask, who would be interested in the same spidle for a 2nd gen f-body?

[yody]

what would it do for the second gen, except for easier mounting of brakes?

[zbugger]

Easier mounting of brakes, and the replaceable hub would make it worth it to me. Why? I have no idea. But it does make things interesting.

[ethan67]

I did the Guldstrand Mod on my car while in college, and looking back at it a few years later I realize I may have has a few too many the night before surgery

Anyway, I plan on re-mounting the UCA 'ear' either by using the DSE coil-over mounting points or cutting off the ears from a donor & welding.

My question is whether you have modified UCA mounting locations for your taller spindle, or are you recommending the standard height spindle with G-mod/DSE mod.

Ethan
67/327 Camaro
San Francisco

[F1 Speed]

Actually I think the tall version of the ATS spindle would bolt right up to a 2nd. gen. if you were to use Howe custom ball joints.

[TitoJones]

Rick-
The actual drop of both spindles is less than 1". It is actually 7/8" of a drop, but I'm splitting hairs here.
For a Guldstand modded car, we recommend the stock style AFX spindle. Not saying that the G-mod and tall AFX spindle can't work together, but I'd keep that kind of geometry on the race track only cars.
Steve- They haven't hit the market, so essentially, the PT board members do have first crack at them. We just had to get our ad into the mags by a certain deadline.
Rough pricing is $550 per set with out bearing packs, and $850 per set with new bearing packs installed.
HWYSTR/Yody/zbugger-
They may well bolt up to a 2nd gen, but I don't think there are any geometry benefits. The spindle forging has extra material for making subtle changes to things like king pin inclination, press in sleeves to change ball joint tapers, and added material to change the over all height of the upright. The items we would need to address are steering arms, wheel offset, and ball joint tapers. I'll offer up a Beta test program for the 2nd gen guys to help us nail down if these will work in your applications.
ethan67- Yes, stock AFX spindle is your best bet with the mods you have done.
F1 Speed- It may well bolt right up with the correct press in ball joint inserts we make, we'll check on the fitment when we get some in hand.
For those of you on the fence-
Example on a 69 Camaro:
The taller height AFX spindle for a 1st gen with a bone stock suspension, equals, and in certain cases exceeds a car with a G-mod, and tubular control arms. Just think- no need for $900 worth of tubular arms, to get the same performance as the AFX spindle.
Tyler

[USAZR1]

Tyler,will the A-body guys running C4 brakes still need to switch to C5 stuff?

[Steve1968LS2]

Makes me want to put a stock subframe on my car ;)

Very nice guys!

Hmmm... stock subframe...

[dipren443]

I talked to Tyler reagrding the possibility of doing a spindle for the 2nd gen f-bodies, and he basically said if there was enough of an interest, he would do it. He's going to look at a factory spindle, see if he can make the existing one work with mods, without having to go back to the drawing board. To do one from the ground up would require about 250-400 pairs to sell to warrant production. So, I ask, who would be interested in the same spidle for a 2nd gen f-body?

I myself would love to have a set of these built for my 1973 Z/28. I just hope there is enough interest to warrant making these.