Anti-Sub Belts

[SicMonte]

QUICK QUESTION...

The seats I have do not have a spereate hole for anti-sub belts. Do I need to run anti-sub belts for events like RTTH/RTTC/RTTS etc and if I do is it ok if they come up around the bottom of the seat?

[NOT A TA]

Are you installing the Kirkeys or the stock seats with a harness? Coming up around doesn't allow the harness to function properly and might be less effective in a crash than a stock seatbelt. Check your PM

[SicMonte]

The seats I have in the car now are these type of seats...

http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS+Performan...70240/10002/-1

I have not put the Kirkey's in the car yet. I have the G-Force Pro harnesses in the car now and have been using it as a four point harness with the seats. There is no whole in the seat to allow an anti-sub belt to properly come thru. Once I install the Kirkey's this issue will be solved but until then I am stuck with the black sport seats.

[GrabberGT]

I've been wondering this myself. Can you add a sub belt hole to seats that do not come with it? I rode in the DSE cars at Goodguys a couple weekends ago and felt the 4-point harness was a little odd with the lap belt riding up when the shoulders are tightened down. It may not have been too bad had I taken more time to adjust but I dont think I could have gotten it to feel completely right with any amnt of adjusting. I also rode in the Gateway Performance Mustang which had the 5-point belts. It felt soo much more secure.

[parsonsj]

and if I do is it ok if they come up around the bottom of the seat?

In a word: no.

For more information, have a look here:

http://www.hmsmotorsport.com/docs/Co...structions.pdf

[SicMonte]

so....is it better to just use the four point harness with the Jegs seats...or to cutr those seats up and make a hole for the anti-sub belt?

[neki67]

Google "Schroth ASM"

[GrabberGT]

So if I am reading correctly (just a quick scan really), to get a sub-belt style system without having to use a sub-belt hole, just go to a 6-point harness. The sub-belts can mount to the same mounts as the lap belt and come over the side of the seat.

[Vegas69]

If you get your lap belt nice and tight first, it will glue you to the seat. I'm in the same position. Sparco's with no hole. I tried running the sub belt over the seat front and it did help. I just don't want the seat wear. As has been said, it's not the safest route but it will keep you from moving around on the track.

[parsonsj]

So if I am reading correctly (just a quick scan really), to get a sub-belt style system without having to use a sub-belt hole, just go to a 6-point harness. The sub-belts can mount to the same mounts as the lap belt and come over the side of the seat.

Yes. That can be true, depending on lots of factors.

jp