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    1. #1
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      What has made our events so cool in my opinion, is the diversity of cars running. My fear is our events being taken over by a sanctioning body(NASA,SCCA,ETC.)and then the rule book comes out, and all the crap starts. Up until now its been the wild,wild west, and I for one like it that way.

      I think Bill has done a good job keeping it fair, after all, its his blood, sweat, and tears putting these things together. Win loose or draw, I haven't been to one event that wasn't a blast.

      Not one of us hasn't looked at the feild and said, I'll never beat that guy. Hell, I thought Kyle, and Penny were never going to get beat, now I think Marks new Camaro is unbeatable. Thats what keeps me tinkering with my junk, it makes me faster every event. I know she's changing it now, but Mary Pozzy's small block, leaf sprung Camaro held off almost the entire feild at optima. Don't care what I'm driving, I want to run with the fast kids, even if I never win. Nobody is stopping you from stepping up.

      Pick a tread wear number, and lets race. Be careful what you wish for, rules and different classes could end up destroying what I think is a great thing. Ron

      Ron Schwarz


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      Quote Originally Posted by Ron S View Post
      . I know she's changing it now, but Mary Pozzy's small block, leaf sprung Camaro held off almost the entire feild at optima.
      Hey Ron,

      Kinda shows you what good driving ability will do for you doesn't it? All the high dollar parts and equipment will help to a degree but will still not overcome poor driving ability.

      A LOT of folks need to consider that the BEST "Bang for Their" Buck is to be investing in themselves by going to a professional driving school and really learning how to drive rather than spending "Mo Money" for more horsepower or other crap on their car. Never underestimate the ability of a great driver to overcome the handicap of lesser equipmen!
      Mike

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    3. #3
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      Quote Originally Posted by Ron S View Post
      What has made our events so cool in my opinion, is the diversity of cars running. My fear is our events being taken over by a sanctioning body(NASA,SCCA,ETC.)and then the rule book comes out, and all the crap starts. Up until now its been the wild,wild west, and I for one like it that way.

      I think Bill has done a good job keeping it fair, after all, its his blood, sweat, and tears putting these things together. Win loose or draw, I haven't been to one event that wasn't a blast.

      Not one of us hasn't looked at the feild and said, I'll never beat that guy. Hell, I thought Kyle, and Penny were never going to get beat, now I think Marks new Camaro is unbeatable. Thats what keeps me tinkering with my junk, it makes me faster every event. I know she's changing it now, but Mary Pozzy's small block, leaf sprung Camaro held off almost the entire feild at optima. Don't care what I'm driving, I want to run with the fast kids, even if I never win. Nobody is stopping you from stepping up.

      Pick a tread wear number, and lets race. Be careful what you wish for, rules and different classes could end up destroying what I think is a great thing. Ron
      Ditto , Ron.
      Ditto.
      Jeff Tate
      U.S.A.
      "The best thing about participating in these events is that you get to hang out with a group of intelligent like minded people who live to achieve things in their lives. You won't find a lazy, mean, or dumb bone in their bodies." Bret Voelkel, RideTech

    4. #4
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      So does a car have to be licensed and street legal for this event?

    5. #5
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      Quote Originally Posted by Glen Koenig View Post
      So does a car have to be licensed and street legal for this event?
      Well for the backwoods cruise it needs to be licensed and street legal, and in order to compete for the trophy's and prizes you need to complete all three events.


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    6. #6
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      Having been around all sorts of racing,I can say this. When you start making classes and rules..it will ruin an event. I remember building a few spec class 10.5 drag cars and having to sell them to bracket racers or completely redoing the car because the rules changed from one year to the next. I heard someone say maybe we should add a weight limit,I dont think that works either. Wieght can be over come by horsepower. If you take a 3000 lb. car with 350 h.p. and put it up against a 4200 lb car with 650 h.p. the heavier car will win. I just used numbers and by no mean shave I figured out the power to wieght ratio,please done flame me..its an example. Then you could say " well I can only fit a 275/40/17 under my car so im not as competative as the guys running 335/35/18..they have more tread width....so that dont work. Then there is the Tread Wear issue..It has been said the more grip the car has..the faster it will get away from you. A 200 TW will let you know when its about to let loose on you,a 140 will not. (again I have no personal evidence of this)but it came from a stand up guy.

      Like Ron said its cool to run with the fast guys.. I enjoyed baeting my Camaro at Road America..That was pretty damn cool for me even if I sucked at my lap times. These events are put on to bring Gear Heads together and to have a great time. Its to put some miles down on the cars we have slaved over building for months and years on end. Lets not loose sight of why these events are put on because as soon as we do..its lights out..
      You want these events to end up like the Fastest Street Car Shoot outs? Where he who has the deepest pocket wins? So far this isnt that way. Sure there are some high dollar cars out there that will be faster than the rest..Its life. Look at any sporting event..theres always a few who will stand out among the rest. This is no different. But as long as we still have a good time and keep the rules at bay,we can keep enjoying ourselves.

      Let give thanks to guys like Bill Howell,Yance Johns,Danny Thomas,Brian Finch,Albert Melchior for putting these events together for us,Let us thank guys/gals like Kyle and Stacey Tucker from Detriot Speed, Frank from Prodigy Customs,The guys at ForgeLine Wheels, Bret Vockel from ridetech,The Morrow family from Spectre,Jimi Day from FM3 marketing Cam Douglas from optima and the other who I am forgetting,for sponsoring these events. With out these guys we wouldnt have these events.

      Greg "GT" Tholen
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      GT Motorsports
      Dealer for Wilwood,Baer,Viking,Moser,BMR,Earl's
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    7. #7
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      Quote Originally Posted by Ron S View Post
      What has made our events so cool in my opinion, is the diversity of cars running. My fear is our events being taken over by a sanctioning body(NASA,SCCA,ETC.)and then the rule book comes out, and all the crap starts. Up until now its been the wild,wild west, and I for one like it that way.

      I think Bill has done a good job keeping it fair, after all, its his blood, sweat, and tears putting these things together. Win loose or draw, I haven't been to one event that wasn't a blast.

      Not one of us hasn't looked at the feild and said, I'll never beat that guy. Hell, I thought Kyle, and Penny were never going to get beat, now I think Marks new Camaro is unbeatable. Thats what keeps me tinkering with my junk, it makes me faster every event. I know she's changing it now, but Mary Pozzy's small block, leaf sprung Camaro held off almost the entire feild at optima. Don't care what I'm driving, I want to run with the fast kids, even if I never win. Nobody is stopping you from stepping up.

      Pick a tread wear number, and lets race. Be careful what you wish for, rules and different classes could end up destroying what I think is a great thing. Ron
      Couldn't have said it better!!!
      Adam
      1985 S10 - LT1 + T56
      1964 Chevy II 4-Door - LS1 + T56




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