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12-20-2010 #1
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Guys just some food for thought because at the end of the day I see it like this,,, the sticker the tire the quicker a qualified driver gets.... The insurance doesn't know who is quick and who isn't,,, they just look at ""risk"" and the risk goes up with sticker tires and speeds. When the risk becomes greater,,,, the events get more expense....
We're just developing as a community and beginning to be recognized as a decent market segment (based on the growth of events and coverage),,,, lets not worry about getting the last bit out of our cars (or ourselves) and concentrate on having a good time at an affordable rate... One bad accident and the insurance will run for the hills (no pun intended) and this will be all over.... Save the cost spread on tires and risk,,,, put it toward attending another event and having a blast...
The more events we have,,,, the more support the manufactures will step up with (both in financial support and product development for our cars).... In the end it's about having a good time without blowing your brains out.... If you want a taste of that just build a car to spec for a race series and campaign it for a season,,,, I'm sure it will cure most of this need for the extra speed...
Just food for thought....Carbon Kustoms Limited
A.K.A. Albert from Toronto
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12-20-2010 #2
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I agree, it's all about fun and being able spend time with friends. And yes being competitive is part of it. But look at the other cars that are at your levels and go from there. If we make it too complicated then the events might go away. And we don't want that. So come and enjoy yourself!!!!
Originally Posted by tazzz25906112
07-04-2011 #3
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Great comments...this week I bought a new set of BFGs and it was not as simple as I thought it would, actually still need to have a wheel spacer made tomorrow to ensure no tire scrubbing at GoodGuys Columbus. I almost went with another brand because tires sizes were somewhat limited in the BFGs, but at the end of the day, I kept hearing one of Bill's soap box sponsor support speaches ringing in my skull...clearly too haunting to ignore. Granger, buy BFG...soooo I did. Bill will not be able to chant in the future"....cheater, cheater...180, bla, bla, bla..." Bill, I hope you show up in Columbus. My vote is keeping this as simple as possible...and I agree improving driving skills is the real time saver! Bill Albert see you at driving schoold in a few weeks.
Brad
07-09-2011 #4
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If you want it perfectly safe, make the straightaways 12 foot long, the lanes 7 foot wide and add speed bumps, with huge cone penalties, and it will PROBABLY be safe. It just won't be any fun.
07-10-2011 #5
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Originally Posted by johngross
Sounds like a challenging and very "technical" course!
As I continue to read the varied thoughts and ideas "I" believe the real safety issues are NOT with the autocross events but are with the Open Track/Road Course events. Big engines, heavy cars, in-experienced driver's, average brakes and limited safety equipment requirements will eventually result in a serious accident. It's coming at a Road Course event it's just a matter of time!
Just like back in the day (60's/70's) our type of cars are fast as Hell in the straightaways and slow and cumbersome in the turns. Nobody wants to get passed so it's "hammer down" on the straightaway's as fast as I can get the car going. OH CRAP! I'm and of the straightaway and NOW I have to stop and turn!!!!! Yes today the brakes and suspensions are better than way back when however see are still talking about 3,500-4,000 lb cars in most cases with more horsepower than back in the day and far LESS experienced driver's at the wheel!
Nobody likes rules and that includes me. RULES are necessary to protect YOU from YOURSELF!
Right now to run the Road Course events all you have to do is you pay to enter your car, bring your car & pass a half A$$ tech inspection and your golden to drive on the track at speeds that could be well beyond your ability to drive your car. This has to change! This ultimate change in the "rules" will not make a lot of people happy since the result will be to limit the type of car (level of preparation) and maybe limit the driver based upon experience (driver's school) that are allowed on the track. Even the 24 hours of Lemons group has better safety requirements for Road Course Track events than we do.
Yes the Lemon's guys are driving junk! From a safety requirements & safety equipment standpoint on a Road Course the Lemon's cars are much safer "Junk" than many of us in the PT group put out on the Road Course track!
07-14-2011 #6
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I will be joining you guys for the first time at RTTHs, and I have a couple of questions,, what are the rules, relulations, tires, classes, ext,: how soon can I find out for sure, before I buy something I can't use, Also, when I sighned up and paid on line, was I supposed to give my car number, what class my car is in, as I see there was discusion on this matter. I really feel lost now,, I am familiar with the events I run in, but not here,, would someone put me in the right direction so I'm not that unprepaired guy slowing down everyone and everything at this wonderfull event ????
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