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    1. #1
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      Mar 2005
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      Hotchkis bars- no shakers

      Ever since I've had this ride I have been trying to remove the cocktail shakers and still maintain integrity and stability.
      When Hotchkis released their handle bar system I believed I might have found a way.
      I'm happy to announce that with the installation of the bars the stiffness has increased and removing the shakers has been phenomenal.
      I added both the front and rear bars and the shakers are in a secured storage!







    2. #2
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      Looks great. I was told by Hotchkis the bars would not fit on LS equipped first gen Camaros. Did you have to modify yours?

      I still went ahead and ordered mine along with the rest of their stiffening package.

    3. #3
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      what upper control arms are you running, stock or aftermarket?
      Dom Buffa
      69 Camaro- 2JZ /Garrett 67MM, Ls1 13" Front disc conversion, 18" ROH 3 piece Modenas



    4. #4
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      How much do the supports weigh? Half as much as one shaker?
      You removed the rear shakers as well?
      Can you get a picture of the mounting where the uppers meet?

      I'll have to make a new mount for my Holley ecu as it is mounted to a shaker! (might as well get some use out of it)

    5. #5
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      We had to lenghten the tabs that attach the cross bar to the bracket in order to raise and move the bar forward to clear the FAST LSX 102 manifold.
      My UCA are the SPC Pro-Lite arms.
      I removed the rear shakers but in a vert we had to modify the rear panel to get it to fit.
      The bars weigh probably a third of a shaker.


    6. #6
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      Apr 2010
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      I have the spc set up as well in my 67 camaro vert. Should be a nice weight dropping addition if it adds enough rigididty to remove the shakers.
      I lost ya at "I removed the rear shakers but in a vert we had to modify the rear panel to get it to fit" Is there a support they make for the rear as well?

    7. #7
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      Yes they have a rear bar
      I should also note that the car has other features that improve stiffness
      Welded sub frame connectors
      Solid body bushings
      Custom springs
      4 link suspension
      X-brace
      Fat mat thru out

    8. #8
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      any pics?
      Love your Family N Life itself.
      68Camaro rs (Medusa)

    9. #9
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      Do these things directly tie the body to the chassis? Is your subframe solidly mounted?

      Also, may be a dumb question, but what is a shaker. Is that the harmonic device on convertibles?
      '69 Chevelle - LQ4/T56
      '71 GMC SWB Fleetside - LM7/AR5

    10. #10
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      Quote Originally Posted by claytonisbob View Post

      Also, may be a dumb question, but what is a shaker. Is that the harmonic device on convertibles?

      That's not a dumb question... yes you are right, it is the can located in all four corners on the convertibles. They have fluid in them to help dampen the vibrations.

      They have a nick name called 'Cocktail shakers'.
      67 Camaro convertible (Jinx)

    11. #11
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      shakers

      Pulled my shakers out from day one without any bars. I know about their benefits for vibrations but I am confused on how they could help make the car more rigid? I never drove the car with them installed but it has been fine without them. Of course there are a lot of suspension upgrades which probably helped.

      Nice vert!!!
      Project: Back in Black.
      69 Camaro LS6, T56, Wilwood Brakes, Forgeline Wheels, Moser rear w/Gbar, Ron Davis Radiator, Pioneer Nav/Stereo, Magnaflow Exhaust.

    12. #12
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      I'll refer to Hotchkis for the tech questions
      you can see from the plcs where they mount.
      They give the car a stiffness that you can feel.

    13. #13
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      Thank you!
      As mentioned by 67 ls1 the shakers helped with vibration and cowl shake, which was most evident at certain speeds. Alot of this has been discussed on other Camaro forums; the consequences of removing them vs. benefits.
      I hesitated to remove the shakers for that reason. But with added support I was more than happy to get rid of the boat anchors.
      I haven't really put it thru the ss's but with some aggressive driving I can feel the improvements.
      Quite a few original vert owners removed the shakers when they found them. Alot of them ended up in salvages, dumps etc.
      For that reason they are extremely popular to restorers.




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