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    1. #1
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      69 Firebird Vintage A/C

      Hello, I have a 69 Firebird it is a factory air car. The car is stripped for restoration. My question is when I put it back together I want to put A/C back in but not factory. What are my choices? Vintage or Classic auto air?I didn't seem to find any kits anywhere. Thanks!



    2. #2
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      try giving Frank a call at Prodigy Customs.

      EDIT

      ah....I see the problem...there are no kits shown for a bird with factory air.

      http://www.vintageair.com/SelectingS...ourVehicle.asp
      1970 RS/SS350 139K on the clock:
      89 TPI motor w/ 1pc rear seal coupled to a Viper T56 via Mcleod's modular bellhousing w/ hydraulic T/O bearing from the Viper, 12 bolt rear w/ 3.73 gearing, SC&C upper control arms, factory lowers with Delalums, C5 brakes at all four corners, Front Wheels 17x8's with Sumi 255/40/17 and Rear Wheels 17x9's with Sumi 275/40/17.
      Brief description of the work done so far can be found here: http://www.nastyz28.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112454


    3. #3
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      It is all based on the controller. the controller is way different then any other and no one has yet figured out how to convert the controller.

      If you willing to run a additional controller we can do it. You could easily hide the additional control

      Call me

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      I used Vintage Air and took their 3 knob control panel and mounted it into a modified stock 69 Firebird control plate. It doesn't look too bad. Not good enough for SEMA but not too bad. I think it was worth it to get the Gen 4 VA in my car.

      The Camaro mounts work fine in the Firebird. Frank can set you up with the pulleys etc you need for your engine.

      Don
      1969 Camaro - LSA 6L90E AME sub/IRS
      1957 Buick Estate Wagon
      1959 El Camino - Ironworks frame
      1956 Cameo - full C5 suspension/drivetrain
      1959 Apache Fleetside

    5. #5
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      Quote Originally Posted by dhutton View Post
      I used Vintage Air and took their 3 knob control panel and mounted it into a modified stock 69 Firebird control plate. It doesn't look too bad. Not good enough for SEMA but not too bad. I think it was worth it to get the Gen 4 VA in my car.

      The Camaro mounts work fine in the Firebird. Frank can set you up with the pulleys etc you need for your engine.

      Don
      Don
      I want to make sure I understand what you did:
      You got a 69 Camaro complete kit and then instead of using the cable controls you got the 3 knob control panel kit to run the system?
      Thanks
      Ray

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      Quote Originally Posted by AM.MSCL View Post
      Don
      I want to make sure I understand what you did:
      You got a 69 Camaro complete kit and then instead of using the cable controls you got the 3 knob control panel kit to run the system?
      Thanks
      Ray
      Yes, I used the 3 knob control to replace the Camaro controls. You can probably some money over buying the 69 Camaro kit by having Frank put together a custom system with the 3 knob control panel.

      Don
      1969 Camaro - LSA 6L90E AME sub/IRS
      1957 Buick Estate Wagon
      1959 El Camino - Ironworks frame
      1956 Cameo - full C5 suspension/drivetrain
      1959 Apache Fleetside

    7. #7
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      I did the same thing as Don. I've got a '69 and V/A actually sent me a '67-8 Camaro kit, all things are the same as the '69 kit except for the controller, which can't be used from either Camaro kit in a Firebird so it must've been a matter of convenience or what was in stock at the time for them.

      I used the 3 knob billet controller in black finish. I have a Covan's thunder road dash and he sent me extra plastic that I glued in place to fill the rectangle hole from the original hvac controls, then cut the hole for the new Vintage Air controller to fit in there. Looks clean.

      Give Frank a call, he can sort you out.


      1969 Firebird, Black, Parchment Arizen interior, Poncho 383 (4" crank), Kauffman heads, TKO600, Moser 12 bolt, Wilwoods, DSE, Speed Tech, Koni, Hotchkis, GW, 18" TTI's, VA Gen IV, etc.

    8. #8
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      Quote Originally Posted by Josh69 View Post
      I did the same thing as Don. I've got a '69 and V/A actually sent me a '67-8 Camaro kit, all things are the same as the '69 kit except for the controller, which can't be used from either Camaro kit in a Firebird so it must've been a matter of convenience or what was in stock at the time for them.

      I used the 3 knob billet controller in black finish. I have a Covan's thunder road dash and he sent me extra plastic that I glued in place to fill the rectangle hole from the original hvac controls, then cut the hole for the new Vintage Air controller to fit in there. Looks clean.

      Give Frank a call, he can sort you out.
      Oh yeah, that 69 Camaro glove box liner won't fit, you need the 67-68 Camaro glove box liner. I learned that one the hard way too...
      1969 Camaro - LSA 6L90E AME sub/IRS
      1957 Buick Estate Wagon
      1959 El Camino - Ironworks frame
      1956 Cameo - full C5 suspension/drivetrain
      1959 Apache Fleetside

    9. #9
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      Quote Originally Posted by dhutton View Post
      Oh yeah, that 69 Camaro glove box liner won't fit, you need the 67-68 Camaro glove box liner. I learned that one the hard way too...
      I guess I got lucky on that part too...or V/A got smart. There were a couple of boxes in my kit that were specifically for a '69 Camaro including the condensor, and one remaining obstacle is that the #8 hard line for the condensor is bent to go across the bottom front of the rad support to the driver's side for the '69 Camaro which I don't understand the need for. I'm just running soft line all the way to the condensor and drier instead.

      Frank put in the order, so they must have a better handle on what a Firebird guy needs now.


      1969 Firebird, Black, Parchment Arizen interior, Poncho 383 (4" crank), Kauffman heads, TKO600, Moser 12 bolt, Wilwoods, DSE, Speed Tech, Koni, Hotchkis, GW, 18" TTI's, VA Gen IV, etc.

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      V/A said the 69 camaro sure fit Gen IV kit will work with the 69 firebird only thing that is needed is the Pontiac 400 compressor bracket. They also said the streamline 3 knob kit will work. This according to John at ext 120
      Ray

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      Quote Originally Posted by AM.MSCL View Post
      V/A said the 69 camaro sure fit Gen IV kit will work with the 69 firebird only thing that is needed is the Pontiac 400 compressor bracket. They also said the streamline 3 knob kit will work. This according to John at ext 120
      Ray
      I think you will get the wrong glove box liner and possibly some hardline that you cannot use if your go this route. I know from experience. They are the experts but I know what I got and what I had left over.
      1969 Camaro - LSA 6L90E AME sub/IRS
      1957 Buick Estate Wagon
      1959 El Camino - Ironworks frame
      1956 Cameo - full C5 suspension/drivetrain
      1959 Apache Fleetside




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