Aluminum Block 427 Install

[Gitter Dun]

Finally talked to one of the engine builders today. To ship motor back and forth would be about $700 so he is going to talk to his brother when he gets back from lunch.

Hopefully we can come up with a reasonable solution. If they have to eat the cost of shipping, so be it, I just need it back in time to make Spectre341Challenge.

[John Wright]

Is there a local shop that they can recommend(someone they trust) to fix this up for you and then they just pick up the tab....I expect that would be much cheaper for them and quicker for you....just a thought.

[Gitter Dun]

Is there a local shop that they can recommend(someone they trust) to fix this up for you and then they just pick up the tab....I expect that would be much cheaper for them and quicker for you....just a thought.

Awesome idea, and definitely the prefered way for me. We'll find out in about an hour.

[MarkM66]

Are the only issues with the engine oil leaks?

Why not just change the gaskets yourself?

I know you're not happy with the engine leaking, but to me, changing a few gaskets would be less hassle then crating the engine back up, shipping, waiting, recieving, uncrating, etc..

[Gitter Dun]

Are the only issues with the engine oil leaks?

Why not just change the gaskets yourself?

I know you're not happy with the engine leaking, but to me, changing a few gaskets would be less hassle then crating the engine back up, shipping, waiting, recieving, uncrating, etc..

I agree, but due to rear main seal leak I dont want them saying that I pulled the rear main cap off and then torqued it down wrong or something like that.

Also, after Buttunwillow, I got leaks from front of engine only under load so I couldn't verify with hood up. I had puddles in my front cross members and thinking might be front seal.

I honestly think internals are OK, engine ran strong on road course.

[6'9"Witha69]

I have had "fresh" "Strong" engines grenade rather quickly. Just because it pulls hard, doesn't mean it's running right.

Also,

That sounds like a bunch of crap. Time for the builder to pay to have a local shop fix it for you.

As you can tell I agree to have the builder pay for local service.

[Gitter Dun]

I have had "fresh" "Strong" engines grenade rather quickly. Just because it pulls hard, doesn't mean it's running right.

Also,
As you can tell I agree to have the builder pay for local service.

Hmm......Duly noted. He asked for pics of breather set up, sent him pics of breather set up and oil in my front frame rails, I talked to his brother and he said there shouldn't be any crank case ventilation issues.

Think your right, time to pull the local builder card.

I'm gonna give Rex Hutchinson a call and see what he says.

[TT302Z28]

Gaetano....I would give Dan at Rex Hutchinson Racing a call. He is off Auburn Blvd taking a right off Madison if you are coming from Hwy80.

they are the best around our area.

[Ripped]

Yeah, if you're talking with your original engine builder,
see if you can get them to cover part of the shipping

I can understand why they would want to repair the engine themselves, and review it, in order to warranty it.

It might even be cheaper for them to fly a mechanic out to you.

Why not offer him dinner and overnight lodgings, see if he'll fly one of his guys out, to you... worth a shot, maybe over a weekend.

[Gitter Dun]

Gaetano....I would give Dan at Rex Hutchinson Racing a call. He is off Auburn Blvd taking a right off Madison if you are coming from Hwy80.

they are the best around our area.

Just talked to Dan at Rex Hutchison Racing Engines. Gonna drop engine off there by Friday and they said they could have it back to me within a few days.

Gonna give NYES a chance to redeem themselves(if even possible) by manning up and picking up the tab. If they dont I will post photos of the cork gasket that was in my pan along with bashing the **** out of them everywhere and every chance I get.

[TT302Z28]

I'm sorry to hear about the trouble. I had a 383 that kept eating it's rear main thrust surface after paying big money to have a company in Roseville do the Machine work. Don't want to mention any names but they are in ROSEVILLE and they do ENGINE MACHINE work. I had the engine torn down and inspected by them and they said it was my torque converter. I replaced the engine and didn't connect the torque converter on the next try. Guess what, it ate the thrust surface again. When it became obvious they couldn't figure out what they did I took the engine to Dan and Rex. The SCAT crank thrust surface was warped and they made it straight with little cost.

I've had them do all of the machine work we need now.

[Gitter Dun]

Yeah, if you're talking with your original engine builder,
see if you can get them to cover part of the shipping

I can understand why they would want to repair the engine themselves, and review it, in order to warranty it.

It might even be cheaper for them to fly a mechanic out to you.

Why not offer him dinner and overnight lodgings, see if he'll fly one of his guys out, to you... worth a shot, maybe over a weekend.

Just talked to the engine builder again, he wants me to ship it out and he will cover all costs. He says he spent extra time on the rear seal to insure it wouldn't leak and that there may be other issues especially since the front is leaking also. I told him that it was hard to believe that he spent the time when I found cork in the pan.

Am I gambling sending it back out to him?

[6'9"Witha69]

If he is picking up the shipping tab, and iyou would have to r&r the engine no matter who looks at it, I would send it to him. But let him know this is his last shot, so he better get it right, otherwise the next thing he receives will be a bill from Rex Hutchinson racing.

[Gitter Dun]

If he is picking up the shipping tab, and iyou would have to r&r the engine no matter who looks at it, I would send it to him. But let him know this is his last shot, so he better get it right, otherwise the next thing he receives will be a bill from Rex Hutchinson racing.

Yup, you are definitely right on that one.

Motor is out of car now and on shipping cradle. Gonna finish shipping crate tomorrow and send it off. he says I should see it back by next Friday.

[Jims78elky]

Am I gambling sending it back out to him?

Yea..because he doesen't want another builder to see what crap he used in this engine build,I would of sent it to Rex Hutchinson racing,so they could go through the complete build..Man..I just know this engine is a turd!

Good luck GG, I hope it works out with your original guy..Did they provide you a build sheet of what parts were used..brand names if any and type/specs torque specs..balancing numbers,things like that?


-Jim

[John Wright]

Why are they still using cork?...I figured with a higher end build they would have used the blue neo gaskets as they seal so much better and are reuseable.... particularly at the pan and valve covers.

[Gitter Dun]

Yea..because he doesen't want another builder to see what crap he used in this engine build,I would of sent it to Rex Hutchinson racing,so they could go through the complete build..Man..I just know this engine is a turd!

Good luck GG, I hope it works out with your original guy..Did they provide you a build sheet of what parts were used..brand names if any and type/specs torque specs..balancing numbers,things like that?


-Jim

I've had the pan off and seen the internals, all good there. I also have build sheet and specs including torque specs. All the pistons have JE stamped on them and the rods looked good. I think were OK as far as parts and pieces go, just leak issues.

I am really tempted to take it to Hutchison even if it came out of my own pocket but I think the right thing to do is give them a chance to fix there own work.

These guys didn't seem like sheisters so I think they mean well.

Crossing my fingers, It's all I could do.

[Ripped]

I think that things will work out with your original engine builder.
**** happens sometimes. Crankshaft seals do fail. What more can they do, if they are willing to pay 100% for shipping, and are willing to fix it.

Certainly express concern on your part, with the excess gasket issue.

All engine builders are going to have their own opinions and own way of doing things.

I had a similar thing happen with my engine guy. People were knocking my guy, after the bearing failure, but he stood behind his product.

Unfortunately, nobody in this industry pays you for your re and re labour, on any part. Even if they stand behind their product.

Keep us aprised.

[sik68]

I've had the pan off and seen the internals, all good there. I also have build sheet and specs including torque specs. All the pistons have JE stamped on them and the rods looked good. I think were OK as far as parts and pieces go, just leak issues.

I am really tempted to take it to Hutchison even if it came out of my own pocket but I think the right thing to do is give them a chance to fix there own work.

These guys didn't seem like sheisters so I think they mean well.

Crossing my fingers, It's all I could do.

I think you're doing the right thing sending to NYES. Let them stand behind their product and make it right....Rex Hutchison does awesome work so you always have them in your back pocket.

PS if you talk to Dan again, tell him Steve Martinez' motor is running great! Actually I have an idea...I'll straight-trade you my Rex Hutchison motor for your NYES motor

[MrQuick]

Im with these guys, don't let a possible 9 dollar seal put an there wise good builder in the can. All it takes is a mis step to pop that little spring off the beal lip.


Let him check it out and correct the problem.

Good luck Gae.
Vince