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    1. #1
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      Pro Touring Cup at Ultimate Track Car Challenge





      Pro Touring Trophy Cup at The Pirelli Ultimate Track Car Challenge

      WHERE: Virginia International Speedway
      WHEN: July 23, 2010
      Grassroots Motorsports magazine is hosting a flat out time trial competition for Pro Touring cars. Unlike other events, Grassroots Motorsports isn't looking for the most well rounded car. The Pro Touring Trophy Cup will validate the performance and capability of pro-touring cars and parts such as suspension, brakes and drivetrain. Fastest lap time wins the trophy.

      Grassroots Motorsports will publish individual data for each and every participant. You'll see how pro-touring cars stack up against each other as well as against a wide variety of weekend track toys and even dedicated track cars. You want data? You got data.

      The Pro Touring Trophy Cup runs within the legendary Pirelli Ultimate Track Car Challenge. That means we will FINALLY get to see how pro-touring car stack up against a wide range of high performance machines including Vettes, BMW's, Porsche's, AWD turbo's and more. The dedicated track cars will still dominate the event, but let's see how our cars rank amongst the entire field.

      Look for complete details in the racing event section tomorrow.
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      Let the "But that's really a race car!" moaning begin.

      Seriously, very cool. Looking forward to seeing it.
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      Yup. Paul Faessler's Mustang is a dedicated track car. It would not be eligible for the Pro Touring Cup. It's a great car though. And heavy interest in car's like this and Glenn Bunch's Challenger have inspired the Pro Touring Cup.

      GRM will hand pick street cars for the invitation only event.
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      Love the magazine, picked up a subscription recently and every issue has had something of interest to me.

      Very cool to hear about the event.
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      I wonder where my car will be in July???

      Although it really has no chance against a stripped down racecar like the one pictured (that remark was just for True ;)
      "A ship in port is safe, but that's not what ships are built for."

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      i mean i'd come out if it weren't for those dirty race cars.



      seriously I doubt my car will be track-ready this year. I may come up just to see everybody run though! sounds like it'll be a blast and a half.

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      Quote Originally Posted by streetfytr68 View Post

      Pro Touring Trophy Cup at The Pirelli Ultimate Track Car Challenge

      WHERE: Virginia International Speedway
      WHEN: July 23, 2010
      Grassroots Motorsports magazine is hosting a flat out time trial competition for Pro Touring cars. Unlike other events, Grassroots Motorsports isn't looking for the most well rounded car. The Pro Touring Trophy Cup will validate the performance and capability of pro-touring cars and parts such as suspension, brakes and drivetrain. Fastest lap time wins the trophy.

      Grassroots Motorsports will publish individual data for each and every participant. You'll see how pro-touring cars stack up against each other as well as against a wide variety of weekend track toys and even dedicated track cars. You want data? You got data.

      The Pro Touring Trophy Cup runs within the legendary Pirelli Ultimate Track Car Challenge. That means we will FINALLY get to see how pro-touring car stack up against a wide range of high performance machines including Vettes, BMW's, Porsche's, AWD turbo's and more. The dedicated track cars will still dominate the event, but let's see how our cars rank amongst the entire field.

      Look for complete details in the racing event section tomorrow.
      Is this really a Friday one-day only event?
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      Quote Originally Posted by streetfytr68 View Post
      Yup. Paul Faessler's Mustang is a dedicated track car. It would not be eligible for the Pro Touring Cup. It's a great car though. And heavy interest in car's like this and Glenn Bunch's Challenger have inspired the Pro Touring Cup.

      GRM will hand pick street cars for the invitation only event.
      IIRC Paul won AIX at the NASA National Championship this year right?

      That is a big hunk of bad-a$$ right there.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Damn True View Post
      IIRC Paul won AIX at the NASA National Championship this year right?

      That is a big hunk of bad-a$$ right there.
      no, chris griswold won in a late 90s mustang, paul won in 2008, he did not compete in 09 or had a failure.

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      Quote Originally Posted by justimagine View Post
      Is this really a Friday one-day only event?
      always has been, real track days handle 100-125 cars and all get 4 20-30 mins sessions.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 View Post
      I wonder where my car will be in July???

      Although it really has no chance against a stripped down racecar like the one pictured (that remark was just for True ;)
      Do I sense some sarcasm?

      I think they should make the "track only" cars run on DOT tires to make the comparison valid. Especially when you consider that some of the PT cars are wolves in sheep's clothing.
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      Quote Originally Posted by LSx_88_Ciera View Post
      Do I sense some sarcasm?

      I think they should make the "track only" cars run on DOT tires to make the comparison valid. Especially when you consider that some of the PT cars are wolves in sheep's clothing.
      I was messing with True since he was expecting bellyaching..

      Looks like a fun event.. my car will be that direction, so who knows. I can't beat "race cars" though, but we can put up a decent fight.
      "A ship in port is safe, but that's not what ships are built for."

      1968 Track Rat Camaro:
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      1971 Chevelle Wagon with a few mods:
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      Quote Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 View Post
      I was messing with True since he was expecting bellyaching..

      Looks like a fun event.. my car will be that direction, so who knows. I can't beat "race cars" though, but we can put up a decent fight.
      I was being facetious.

      Coverage of this event makes for one of the best issues of GRM every year.
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      Quote Originally Posted by hotrdblder View Post
      always has been, real track days handle 100-125 cars and all get 4 20-30 mins sessions.
      Cool - fender to fender stuff! Always enjoy "real" track days...but on a Friday?
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      Hi Jimi,
      The Pirelli Ultimate Track Car Challenge (UTCC) does not involve any "fender to fender" racing. That's silly. It's a time trial competition. The UTCC kicks off a regularly scheduled NASA Mid-Atlantic race weekend.

      Fri - Sat - Sun.

      Come out to run or watch the amazing UTCC and then stay all weekend to drive the wheels off your car at one of the country's best tracks: VIR

      The UTCC always attracts an extraordinary collection of hyper fast street and track cars. And starting this year, that collection will include some capable pro-touring cars. It will be great to see how our cars compare.

      Hopefully, the UTCC will entice pro touring enthusiasts to show up and then stay for weekend HPDE schools. You don't need a pro-touring or sports car for HPDE. All you need is a safe car and a helmet. There are four levels to HPDE to suit all experience levels.

      The NASA Mid-Atlantic schedule can be found here:
      NASA MID ATLANTIC SCHEDULE

      Information about HPDE driving programs can be found here:
      HPDE Schools
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      Quote Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 View Post
      I was messing with True since he was expecting bellyaching..

      Looks like a fun event.. my car will be that direction, so who knows. I can't beat "race cars" though, but we can put up a decent fight.
      Penny is going to be on my end of the country in July?
      I will have to get down there and see it run.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Nessumsar View Post
      Love the magazine, picked up a subscription recently and every issue has had something of interest to me.

      Very cool to hear about the event.
      Thanks! It takes guts to publish honest tire tests, and to create crazy events like the Ultimate Track Car Challenge. That's the kind of stuff that makes Grassroots Motorsports so popular.
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      I'm in , both the Freedom Bird and my 70 Camaro will have had plenty of street time and some track time by then

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      Quote Originally Posted by streetfytr68 View Post
      Hi Jimi,
      The Pirelli Ultimate Track Car Challenge (UTCC) does not involve any "fender to fender" racing. That's silly. It's a time trial competition. The UTCC kicks off a regularly scheduled NASA Mid-Atlantic race weekend.
      Yup, I've done several HPDE events up here at Road America. You're right, not really fender-to-fender, but there's a lot of passing and on track competition, at least at the events I've been to.

      This sounds like an awesome event, wish I could be there.

      BTW - I second the motion on GRM being one of my favorite pubs. I get dozens each month and GRM always lands on the top of the pile!
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