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    1. #1
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      Anyone use HOK shimrin or kandys

      Anyone use House of Kolor Shimrin base coats? How do they compare to their kandy counterparts? Any good or bad experiences appreciated. Looking at Brandywine and Apple reds. I know the full kandys are impossible to match. TIA - Ron

      Ron
      69 Camaro Redfire, thanks to
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      No problems here. Love using the HOK systems. If you're doing a driver, you may want to go with the PBC's or the KBC's. They're much easier to match should you have an oopsie. Plus it keeps the film build low. Nothing beats the look of a multi-layered candy paint, but you need a sterile atmosphere to keep the dirt out of the many coats you'll be putting on. IMHO.

      Rick Butterfield

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      Thanks, I plan on driving the car so I'm leaning towards the KBC. I just saw a 69 done in a combo of full kandy brandywine and apple...5 coats or so... and it was awesome. Not so much for those oopsies though!
      Ron
      69 Camaro Redfire, thanks to
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    4. #4
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      Mine is painted with a Glasurit candy red (about 8 coats) over a silver base. My painter tried very hard to convince me to go base clear but I always wanted a candy red. Love it, and am so glad I stuck to my guns. I've driven it on the street only. The car can always be re-painted down the road so I could care less.

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    5. #5
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      Thanks Ryan, the paint on your car looks awesome. Decisions decisions...Ron
      Ron
      69 Camaro Redfire, thanks to
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    6. #6
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      ive been using the matrix system there fx series crosses over to hok and the price is way better.works just as good

    7. #7
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      If you want a heavy metal flake (not Bass Boat flake) with a candy I use PPG DMD650 silver base with SEM concentrates candy mixed with PPG inter stage clear DBC500 I think that’s what it is and then clear it. Easy to work with and you can mix custom candy’s. Here is a bike I did not that long ago with silver then some Airbrushing then a candy over it…. JMTC
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      Quote Originally Posted by Riderz Cycle View Post
      If you want a heavy metal flake (not Bass Boat flake) with a candy I use PPG DMD650 silver base with SEM concentrates candy mixed with PPG inter stage clear DBC500 I think that’s what it is and then clear it. Easy to work with and you can mix custom candy’s. Here is a bike I did not that long ago with silver then some Airbrushing then a candy over it…. JMTC
      That's just sick!!! Awsome paint work!!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Riderz Cycle View Post
      If you want a heavy metal flake (not Bass Boat flake) with a candy I use PPG DMD650 silver base with SEM concentrates candy mixed with PPG inter stage clear DBC500 I think that’s what it is and then clear it. Easy to work with and you can mix custom candy’s. Here is a bike I did not that long ago with silver then some Airbrushing then a candy over it…. JMTC
      Great job of airbrush work my friend. And when you laid that Candyred over it, WOW! I do some airbrush work myself. And yours is excellent!

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      i have hok on my 65 chevelle and love the color

    11. #11
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      Thanks guys we have done a bunch of these style paint jobs for folks. If anyone has any questions on how, process, or materials we used just let me know it is simple. I tell you whatever you need. I have used HOK products and they are great products but I have enjoyed using the SEM products as well.


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      Riderz,,,, what is your feelings about PPG for high end pearl yellows???? I'm trying to decide on paints for the WarPath and want the impossible obviously (you know killer paint and repairable).... We all know WarPath will "Not" be a trailer queen, but I want to have a kick ass pearl yellowish color unique to the car...

      Given your experience with what appears to be comments about mixing manufactures products,,,, what would be the ultimate balance of durable paints (mixed manufactures if necessary) and show finish..... I'm not worried about little chips as I consider them character and they show you use the thing,,,,,, more in the case of complete or partial panel blending for those days that I push things a little to far and find myself into objects that don't move as easy as the car LOL....

      It should be noted this paint will be expected to live on a mostly carbon surface (and some steel) just in case that makes a difference in your thinking... Thanks in advance for any impute...
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      Quote Originally Posted by tazzz25906112 View Post
      Riderz,,,, what is your feelings about PPG for high end pearl yellows???? I'm trying to decide on paints for the WarPath and want the impossible obviously (you know killer paint and repairable).... We all know WarPath will "Not" be a trailer queen, but I want to have a kick ass pearl yellowish color unique to the car...

      Given your experience with what appears to be comments about mixing manufactures products,,,, what would be the ultimate balance of durable paints (mixed manufactures if necessary) and show finish..... I'm not worried about little chips as I consider them character and they show you use the thing,,,,,, more in the case of complete or partial panel blending for those days that I push things a little to far and find myself into objects that don't move as easy as the car LOL....

      It should be noted this paint will be expected to live on a mostly carbon surface (and some steel) just in case that makes a difference in your thinking... Thanks in advance for any impute...
      Albert, for repairablilty, use a base coat pearl, you can have best of both worlds and is not difficult to repair. try to stay away from tri-coats, just the factories definition of saying candy.
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      Have to agree 100%....If you think you have to repair a pearl mixing or trying to blend into a tri-coat can be difficult. Try to find a color you that has the pearl in the basecoat and the nice part about that is if the color you find doesn't have the shade or enough peral in it you can alway add more or change it when they mix it, but be careful to note the amounts and shades used just in case you do have to do a repair. Final option is mix up a little bit extra doen't reduce it and keep it in a semi climate safe place.


      Quote Originally Posted by MuscleRodz View Post
      Albert, for repairablilty, use a base coat pearl, you can have best of both worlds and is not difficult to repair. try to stay away from tri-coats, just the factories definition of saying candy.


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    15. #15
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      Anyone know how the finish of the KBC or PBC compares to the kandy/tri-coat? Guess it's worth painting some test panels...

      KBC brandywine



      pbc goldmine

      Ron
      69 Camaro Redfire, thanks to
      Marquez Design | Ring Brothers

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      I'm not sure the general public would know the difference, but there is one. If you prefer doing and intercoat clear step(tri-coat), select a base coat then use a dry pearl/clear mix as a mid coat. Just remember, the more colors/steps you introduce now will make it more difficult to match should you need to make a repair.

      Rick Butterfield




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