ATS Spindle Thread Split

[TitoJones]

This thread is to explain all the design features, and questions we've recieved regarding our new upright, called the AFX Spindle.


Features include:

Fits A, F and X body cars (68-72 Chevelle, 67-69 Camaro, and 68-74 Nova)

Ultra light (2.9lbs), exceptionally strong forged 6061 T6 aluminum

1.4" taller than stock* for improved handling (gives greater camber gain with minmal tire wear)

Revised steering geometry for near zero bumpsteer (utilizes a bolt on steering arm. This means you can use this spindle with any of the aftermarket rack and pinion kits, including Flaming River, BRP, and others.)

7/8" drop for a lowered look, without causing rim to steering arm clearence issues related with dropped spindles (usually happens with over 1.5" drop)

Uses a sealed C6 Corvette hub assembly with integrated wheel speed sensors perfect for retrofitting an anti-lock braking controller to the chassis, or for installing an advanced traction control device. (A few additional features of using these bearing packs include bigger bearings for open road racing, as well as the ability to use a C5/C6 Corvette rear bearing pack for someone crazy enough to attempt an all-wheel-drive conversion.)

Multiple brake options including Baer's new 6 pistion mono block calipers. (Any brake manufacturer that sells a C5/C6 Corvette package can be used on this spindle. Anything from factory Z06 style, all the way to AP racing calipers will bolt on with zero mods.)

* also available in stock height for use with any geoemtry and control arm configuration. (This means you can use our 'stock' style spindle with the G mod, the DSE coil over mounts, and any tubular control arm, ie GW, DSE, ST, ect.)

These are not remade SED spindles. We started with a clean slate to make this product. It was executed so well, that we got the Mark Stielow seal of approval, and he will be testing a set on the re-aquired Thrasher Camaro.

Available in late June, and should be within the price range our our competition.

Tyler

[Marcus SC&C]

They already know about it. They`re aiming their product at folks who want a quick and simple mod to lower the car and improve the handling some without doing lots of other mods. They should be just fine for that. If they were shooting for the hardcore crowd it wouldn`t be a drop spindle. ;) Marcus SC&C

[wally8]

Actually from the measurements I've taken off my car (65 LeMans) and the ride height that I want, I am going to need a drop spindle.

2 inches might be a little much, 1.5 would be better. The worst part of a stock spindle that I can see is the pin height. Everything else I could feasibly work around but you can't get around the pin height.


Wally

[TitoJones]

In regards to Fat Man's new spindle:

They already know about it. They`re aiming their product at folks who want a quick and simple mod to lower the car and improve the handling some without doing lots of other mods. They should be just fine for that. If they were shooting for the hardcore crowd it wouldn`t be a drop spindle. ;) Marcus SC&C

Our spindle is aimed at a similar market. We also require no mods to the car for a successful installation. While our main focus is more to improve the terrible factory geoemtry without the need for aftermarket control arms, ours will also lower the car slightly. We have found that a 2" drop causes more clearence issues than it solves, and there are much better ways to lower the car than raising the king pin height. We had to lower our spindle to fit the C6 Corvette bearing pack, but we managed to keep it under 1".

Here is a spy shot of the spindle:


Tyler

[Steve68]

Come on June, go Tyler go, !!!!

[dennis68]

Hey Tyler, does that hurt???

[TitoJones]

Dennis-
If referring to the braking system, then yes, it hurts. Badly. These things could detach your eyeballs from your skull with some hydroboost hooked up to them.

Tyler

[dennis68]

Actually I meant reaching your arm back that far for your pat on the back.

I like the teaser pic. I have even spread the word of the upcoming unveiling.

[TitoJones]

Nice. You got me.


Tyler

[jeffandre]

Tyler,
Shoot me a PM when you get a minute, I am interested in what it costs to get the same rotors and calipers with pads. What is the measurement from the center of the rotor (spindle king pin) to the outer edge of the caliper? I cannot seem to get any piston size specs from the Baer site, any chance you could shoot me those too? If I am in the market to buy I will contact you before I come out to Vegas in late June. Thanks,

[Steve68]

Tyler, When are you going to post a picture? I might need more parts from ATS, I have to call a guy today about a T-56, Steve Waiting on June,

[Rybar]

How much of a drop do your spindles have Tyler?

[dennis68]

Hey Ty, Fatman is pushed back at LEAST 60 days. Too bad for him....that is going to put his release at the same time as yours. Let's see, OE design spindles with a 2" drop and 2" taller OR all new design, state of the art aluminum uprights with bolt in sealed bearings.

[USAZR1]

Tyler,what applications will your new spindles fit?
Aluminum? No problem running these on the front of a 3600lb street car?

[TitoJones]

Clint-

The spindles are forged aluminum from 6061 T6 aluminum, made at the same facility that makes OEM items such as the aluminum suspension parts used on the new C6 Z06 Corvette. If that does not satisfy your needs we have also done extensive FEA (Finite Element Analysis) stress testing to make sure the design holds up to load inputs taken from strain gauge readings from GM's test grounds. They will be more than sufficient.

Steve-

Patience young Jedi. I did post a pic of the spindle. It is behind that solid 2pc 14" rotor. Use your imiagination.

Tyler

[Steve1968LS2]

Damn.. you go and come out with bitchen spindles now that I have an aftermarket subframe with a Mustang II suspension..

Damn!! ;)

Still gonna bug you about a 6 speed install though :D

[MuscleRodz]

What offset will be required to run the new spindles? Stock or deeper offset.

Mike

[TitoJones]

Steve-Ditch that frame, go back to stock.

Mike- Same as stock, track width was not changed.

Tyler

[Steve68]

Master, I have patience, I will study the picture, I can see through object, the force is with me, ahhaah Steve

[BrianP]

Do the ATS spindles have an offset hub centerline similar to the vette spindles for increased caster?