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    1. #1
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      manual steering box for 'pro-touring'?

      Can anyone recommend a steering box for a gm application that is non power, but has a good ratio for a pro touring type car?

      1971 Camaro 427 in waiting
      1988 C1500 Daily Driver
      1955 Bel Air, blown BBC street car


    2. #2
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      I can't really think of one. The fat front tires, heavy front ends, and need to turn quickly seem to be at odds with manual steering.


      -- Dan

    3. #3
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      I had a 16:1 manual box (from Lares Corp) on my El Camino. It wasn't bad at all to steer, even when autoxing with 275/40/17 V710s on the front. It was kinda hard when sitting still, but as long as you were moving it turned easy. The only issues I had with it was during autox, it slowed me down in quick switchback sections (like Chicago boxes, tight slaloms and such). Other than that I liked it on the street alot.
      2018 Cruze LT Hatchback
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      1975 MGB Roadster
      2003 GSX750F Katana

    4. #4
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      I agree with Ramdy. I was going to go with a manual rack on my TA. I drive more on the street. So going in and out of cruise nights with manual steering would be a pain. I had a car with a manual rack when I was a kid. No problem avove 5 mph but quick steering inputw were a little bit of a chore. Go with the power steering. You can buy a valve to put innline to take some of the boost away fro the steering. Heidts sells a nice one that doesn't dead head your pump.
      Everything Under the Sun is Intune
      Chris
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    5. #5
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      do you have a small block or big block? I ask because I had a non power quick ratio on my 68'. I had it on for about 100 miles. But with my big block, driving it was like working out! I took it off and put on a power quick ratio box I got through ATS. I still have the non power box if your interested in it?

    6. #6
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      Going to Ls motor.

      My daily driver truck has manual steering, so I am use to it.
      1971 Camaro 427 in waiting
      1988 C1500 Daily Driver
      1955 Bel Air, blown BBC street car

    7. #7
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      Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Blaze View Post
      Going to Ls motor.

      My daily driver truck has manual steering, so I am use to it.
      Truck box... Slow ratio. Not so big a deal to have manual.

      Manual and quick ratio box... Not so much fun. I don't think anyone out there makes a really good QR manual box.
      Nick DiPrenda

    8. #8
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      I bought a quick ratio manual box for my car, drove it for about 300 miles and did a power conversion with a lee box. When all that matters is going straight on 215/70-15's, manual steering is fine. When you start trying to hustle your 245's (or wider) through the twisties, most are gonna wish they had some assist. I'm not a small guy, and I didn't find it realistic to try to strongarm my car around a canyon, much less an autocross or track day.

      I bought mine from a member, it was made by a company called Remy Racing. It was a very nice piece with very little slop, but it was very heavy on the arms.

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      Jeff K.
      69 Camaro SS, 406 SBC, TKO600, 9" w/3.73 tru-trac, Speedtech Arms, AFX Spindles, Lee 670 Box, Baer GT front, C5Z rear. Hyperco Leafs w/ Fays2 Watts Link + Varishocks.

    9. #9
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      Surprisingly the quick ratio box is only slightly harder to turn than the slow ratio boxes. I autoxed 2 years with the manual box, but I have power steering now, mainly due to putting a 94 LT1 into the car.
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      2003 Suburban 2500 8.1L
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      2003 GSX750F Katana

    10. #10
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      You may discover that you'll want to tweak your alignment settings - caster in particular - toward less aggressive settings.

      A heavy front end (absolute weight, not front% of total) + quick steering + lots of positive caster - power assist ≈≈ Bowflex simulator.


      Norm
      '08 GT coupe, 5M, suspension unstockish (the occasional track toy)
      '19 WRX, Turbo-H4/6M (the family sedan . . . seriously)
      Gone but not forgotten dep't:
      '01 Maxima 20AE 5M, '10 LGT 6M, '95 626, V6/5M; '79 Malibu, V8/4M-5M; '87 Maxima, V6/5M; '72 Pinto, I4/4M; '64 Dodge V8/3A




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