67 Firebird re-birth

[CliffS]

Making progress, looking good.
You're using Doug's headers, did you try a oil filter yet. I encountered som clearance problems with the Napa 1258 I normally use

[67rstbkt]

Making progress, looking good.
You're using Doug's headers, did you try a oil filter yet. I encountered som clearance problems with the Napa 1258 I normally use

I did; I read somewhere that I could use the same oil filter as on an LS1, so I tried it out and it looks like a good fit. AC Delco part number PF46. I can try out some others, but I like this option because I'm pretty sure I don't have to worry about not finding one on the shelf at the auto parts store.

[CliffS]

Do you have the 569's?
Is PF46 filter not too small for the Poncho mill? Read about oil pressure dropping when going too small and anti drain valve etc.
Any pic of the engine with the filter on? Would be a big help.
Big headache here, got some pointers that NAPA 1522 or WIX 51522 would do the trick ( 3"diameter and 4.5" height). Whole day busy trying to find that filter, nobody ever heard of Napa/WIX

[LeighP]

Have a friend with a 68 and a 428 in it....runs the LS1 filter on his for clearance, no problems.

[CliffS]

thanks Leigh,
I will try to get the PF46 anyway. Just got the suggestion to try PF45 too, probably an old part number which is now know by PF61

[CliffS]

Better safe then sorry. Small investment on the filter. I will shoot some pics Sunday. Thanks

[67rstbkt]

Better safe then sorry. Small investment on the filter. I will shoot some pics Sunday. Thanks

That's for sure. I found an applications listing on Napa's website. Looks like the 1522 fits a lot of different applications. I've already found a bosch and K&N that looks like it would work. Here are the applications from Napa's website:

Applications for part 1522

Make Model Engine
AMERICAN MOTORS CONCORD L6 4.2L 258 CID
AMERICAN MOTORS EAGLE L6 4.2L 258 CID
AMERICAN MOTORS EAGLE SX-4 L6 4.2L 258 CID
AMERICAN MOTORS SPIRIT L6 4.2L 258 CID
BUICK LACROSSE V6 3.6L 217 CID
BUICK LUCERNE V6 3.9L 237 CID
BUICK LUCERNE V8 4.6L 281 CID
BUICK RAINIER L6 4.2L 256 CID
BUICK RENDEZVOUS V6 3.6L 217 CID
BUICK RIVIERA V8 5.7L 350 CID Diesel
BUICK TERRAZA V6 3.9L 237 CID
CADILLAC ALLANTE V8 4.6L 281 CID
CADILLAC COMM CHASSIS V8 4.9L 300 CID
CADILLAC COMM CHASSIS V8 6.0L 368 CID
CADILLAC DEVILLE V8 4.6L 281 CID
CADILLAC DEVILLE V8 4.9L 300 CID
CADILLAC DEVILLE CONCOURS V8 4.6L 281 CID
CADILLAC DTS V8 4.6L 281 CID
CADILLAC ELDORADO V8 4.6L 281 CID
CADILLAC ELDORADO V8 4.9L 300 CID
CADILLAC FLEETWOOD V8 4.9L 300 CID
CADILLAC SEVILLE V8 4.6L 281 CID
CADILLAC SEVILLE V8 4.9L 300 CID
CADILLAC SRX V8 4.6L 281 CID
CADILLAC STS V8 4.6L 281 CID
CADILLAC XLR V8 4.6L 281 CID
CHEVROLET IMPALA V6 3.5L 213 CID
CHEVROLET IMPALA V6 3.9L 237 CID
CHEVROLET MALIBU V6 3.5L 213 CID
CHEVROLET MALIBU V6 3.9L 237 CID
CHEVROLET MALIBU V8 3.9L 238 CID
CHEVROLET MONTE CARLO V6 3.5L 213 CID
CHEVROLET MONTE CARLO V6 3.9L 237 CID
CHEVROLET LIGHT TRUCKS COLORADO L5 3.5L 211 CID
CHEVROLET LIGHT TRUCKS COLORADO L5 3.7L 226 CID
CHEVROLET LIGHT TRUCKS SILVERADO (ALL) V8 4.8L 294 CID
CHEVROLET LIGHT TRUCKS SILVERADO (ALL) V8 5.3L 325 CID
CHEVROLET LIGHT TRUCKS SILVERADO (ALL) V8 6.0L 364 CID
CHEVROLET LIGHT TRUCKS SUBURBAN (ALL) V8 6.0L 364 CID
CHEVROLET LIGHT TRUCKS TAHOE V8 4.8L 294 CID
CHEVROLET LIGHT TRUCKS TRAILBLAZER L6 4.2L 256 CID
CHEVROLET LIGHT TRUCKS UPLANDER V6 3.9L 237 CID
GMC LIGHT TRUCKS CANYON L5 3.5L 211 CID
GMC LIGHT TRUCKS CANYON L5 3.7L 226 CID
GMC LIGHT TRUCKS ENVOY L6 4.2L 256 CID
GMC LIGHT TRUCKS SIERRA PICKUPS (ALL) V8 4.8L 294 CID
GMC LIGHT TRUCKS SIERRA PICKUPS (ALL) V8 5.3L 325 CID
GMC LIGHT TRUCKS SIERRA PICKUPS (ALL) V8 6.0L 364 CID
GMC LIGHT TRUCKS YUKON (ALL) V8 4.8L 294 CID
GMC LIGHT TRUCKS YUKON (ALL) V8 6.0L 364 CID
HUMMER H3 L5 3.5L 211 CID
HUMMER H3 L5 3.7L 223 CID
HUMMER H3T L5 3.7L 223 CID
HUMMER H3X L5 3.7L 223 CID
ISUZU ASCENDER L6 4.2L 256 CID
ISUZU I350 L5 3.5L 211 CID
ISUZU I370 L5 3.7L 226 CID
JEEP CHEROKEE L6 4.2L 258 CID
JEEP CJ5 L6 4.2L 258 CID
JEEP CJ7 L6 4.2L 258 CID
JEEP GRAND WAGONEER L6 4.2L 258 CID
JEEP GRAND WAGONEER V8 5.9L 360 CID
JEEP PICKUP J SERIES L6 4.2L 258 CID
JEEP PICKUP J SERIES V8 5.9L 360 CID
JEEP SCRAMBLER L6 4.2L 258 CID
JEEP WAGONEER L6 4.2L 258 CID
OLDSMOBILE AURORA V8 4.0L 244 CID
OLDSMOBILE BRAVADA L6 4.2L 256 CID
OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS CALAIS V8 4.3L 260 CID
OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS CALAIS V8 4.3L 260 CID Diesel
OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS CALAIS V8 5.0L 307 CID
OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS CALAIS V8 5.7L 350 CID Diesel
OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS SALON V8 5.0L 307 CID
OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS SALON V8 5.7L 350 CID Diesel
PONTIAC BONNEVILLE V8 4.6L 281 CID
PONTIAC G6 V6 3.5L 213 CID
PONTIAC G6 V6 3.9L 237 CID
PONTIAC MONTANA V6 3.9L 237 CID
SAAB 9-7X L6 4.2L 256 CID
SATURN AURA V6 3.5L 213 CID
SATURN RELAY V6 3.9L 237 CID
SATURN VUE V6 3.5L 213 CID
SHELBY SERIES 1 V8 4.0L 4000cc

[CliffS]

Looks good. Lot of guys on PY use the 1522 and the 1258.

[CliffS]

Hey Joe, update.
The 51522 delivered:



A lot smaller, but it seems there is a big difference between the round port and d port headers.

The Napa I used before



and the WIX



I had to put the WIX on the filter adapter before mounting the filter adapter, otherwise there was no way to get the filter on the block. One mounted the filter bottom just hits
the header. It's so little I was able to twist the filter and hand tighted it. I think I'm going to leave it this way for now, to much of a headache.

[67rstbkt]

Hey Joe, update.
The 51522 delivered:

A lot smaller, but it seems there is a big difference between the round port and d port headers.

The Napa I used before


I had to put the WIX on the filter adapter before mounting the filter adapter, otherwise there was no way to get the filter on the block. One mounted the filter bottom just hits
the header. It's so little I was able to twist the filter and hand tighted it. I think I'm going to leave it this way for now, to much of a headache.

Wow, it's crazy how much different it is in your setup. If I had the same fitment, I might try the offset adapter R.A.R.E sells for their ram air manifolds (Maybe tilting it back will make it easier to get in), or just do it like LeighP did.

[CliffS]

Wow, it's crazy how much different it is in your setup. If I had the same fitment, I might try the offset adapter R.A.R.E sells for their ram air manifolds (Maybe tilting it back will make it easier to get in), or just do it like LeighP did.

Crazy indeed! Turns me crazy but it is part of hot rodding I suppose. Any idea what anlgle the R.A.R.E adapter makes?

[67rstbkt]

Crazy indeed! Turns me crazy but it is part of hot rodding I suppose. Any idea what anlgle the R.A.R.E adapter makes?

I'm not sure exactly, but looking at it, it seems that it would tilt the filter back. It might be worth giving them a call to find out. I've seen the adaptor in the AMES catalog as well.

Here's the link to the R.A.R.E adapter:
http://www.ramairrestoration.com/cat...products_id=49

[CliffS]

I'm not sure exactly, but looking at it, it seems that it would tilt the filter back. It might be worth giving them a call to find out. I've seen the adaptor in the AMES catalog as well.

Here's the link to the R.A.R.E adapter:
http://www.ramairrestoration.com/cat...products_id=49

Thanks Joe, talked to RARE yesterday evening. It seems the adapter just moves the housing outwards 1" 1/2. think I have to locate a 90 dgrs filter housing.

[LeighP]

I went the remote filter path on mine...lets me run a standard or long Chevy filter. Easy to get.

[CliffS]

I went the remote filter path on mine...lets me run a standard or long Chevy filter. Easy to get.

thanks Leigh,

Was thinking about the remote set up before but since the MSD 6AL and a fuel pump regulator are already mounted on the firewall I rather not go that way. If I had to mount the remote set up I probably had to mount it more to the front of the car which is in mine opinion not to good.

[CliffS]

Good news, tracked down a straight housing, will be shipped today.
Read about the same problem on a board which Doug's had no answer to.

[67rstbkt]

Good news, tracked down a straight housing, will be shipped today.
Read about the same problem on a board which Doug's had no answer to.

Nice! Well post up some pics when you get it in.

[PonchoJohn]

The R/A adapter does both- it spaces the filter outward (due to it bolting in between your block and OE oil filter housing) and rotates the filter rearward/upward.
Another trick is to oval the two lower mounting bolts. This will give you a fair amount of adjustment room while still fitting in the OEM spot.

[CliffS]

Thanks for the alternitives John, I've been thinking about the Jim Hand option but it still wouldn't allow to screw of the filter without taking of the adapter.

Joe! I received the straight adapter. It solved the whole issue. Will not hijack your post no longer ;) and post on my thread. Thanks again for your help!

[67rstbkt]

Thanks for the alternitives John, I've been thinking about the Jim Hand option but it still wouldn't allow to screw of the filter without taking of the adapter.

Joe! I received the straight adapter. It solved the whole issue. Will not hijack your post no longer ;) and post on my thread. Thanks again for your help!

No worries, I'm glad you finally found a solution to the problem.