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    1. #1
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      Shelby expert...Pawn Stars episode

      Do any of you guys watch Pawn Stars? The show about the Vegas Pawn shop??

      Did you guys see the episode where a guy brings in a Shelby to sell and the pawn shop owner takes it to a "shelby expert" and all he does is look for a small stamp on the frame to say for sure its a real Shelby and not a replica... just a CR stampd on the frame in the engine compartment..

      Is that frickin real? You mean to tell me that one small basic stamp on a frame and you can tell its a real Shelby? That would take all of 30 seconds to fake...... there has to be more than that...... considering the value of a true original Shelby, there has to be more to make sure its not a replica/fake...

      I know its TV, so I would hope there was alot more "off camera" inspection of the car that helped to verify its origin.

      So ...any hard core Shelby guys....whats up with that....



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      I said no way too the first time I saw it.
      A little online research turns up that that was one of the Shelby "continuation" cars. So definitely not an orignal Cobra, but one of the current kit versions built by Shelby America. The serial number after the code was blurred out intentionally on the show. The guys are dorky and obviously everything is staged for the benefit of the cameras so watching it is more like reenactments than a true hidden camera reality show. Fun to watch and it must be an interesting business, especially in Vegas.
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      Just a guess, I would imagine there was a much more thorough off screen inspection that probably didn't translate well to TV. I think the show is interesting. I have always enjoyed going to pawn shops to see what other people bring in and that is what makes the show interesting to me.
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      Quote Originally Posted by srh3trinity View Post
      Just a guess, I would imagine there was a much more thorough off screen inspection that probably didn't translate well to TV. I think the show is interesting. I have always enjoyed going to pawn shops to see what other people bring in and that is what makes the show interesting to me.
      I like the show...but that big dude on there.."big hoss" that kid is such a smart ass to his dad..and the grandfather who owns the shop..I laughed my ass of when that kid purchased a $38.000.00 hot air balloon and just looked like a ass when his dad called him for it..I mean..sure they do some of that crap for the ''show'' but looking like a big horse butt shouldn't be one of those.

      lol..sorry to get off the track here.

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      Quote Originally Posted by gkring View Post
      I said no way too the first time I saw it.
      A little online research turns up that that was one of the Shelby "continuation" cars. So definitely not an orignal Cobra, but one of the current kit versions built by Shelby America. The serial number after the code was blurred out intentionally on the show. The guys are dorky and obviously everything is staged for the benefit of the cameras so watching it is more like reenactments than a true hidden camera reality show. Fun to watch and it must be an interesting business, especially in Vegas.
      +1 on the "New" Shelby.

      That's why it was $156,000 estimated sale price, versus the serious bucks of an "Old" Shelby. Both real, just one's a real 196_ model year and ones from 200_ .
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      I hope the guy gets a lawyer if he was ripped off. The expert clearly was lying and the guy made his decision with the experts advice. It's staged like all reality tv. I almost fell out of my chair when I saw that.
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      I'd be willing to bet that the car in the eppisode was a kit car originally started by Finish Line Motorsports.... a now defunct car shop located in the Speedway Industrial Park (I worked next door to the shop for 8 years)The bodies like the one in the eppisode come from two places... An old fighter plane factory in Polland or somewhere in Arizona.... And they run almost 40 grand....Finish Line was closed down by the government sometime last year I belive so its easy to imagine someone just stashing a car...While they were in Buisness they did great work and although a 2 year wait and 150k+ price tag came with the car they were the nicest reproductions I've seen..Our engine shop supplied Engines for the cars.. mostly Aluminum SBF but alot of FE's as well..The car was finished by Toms Motorsports directly accross the street from the closed Finish Line shop...I built quiet a few transmissions for track cars maintained by TMS... I had the chance to see some of the most spectacular cars on the face of the earth while there.....The price they put into the car isnt far fetched... but its not an original....

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      So basicaly it may have been an officially Shelby licensed reproduction body but was a true "original" Shelby Cobra

      Even still.... a small stamp and the price jumps......seems too easy to fake....especially in a town like Vegas.

      The show is fun to watch.....but I find it hard to beleive that the guy is such an expert on all these items that randomly walk in

      Plus I think every customer is a degenerate gambler trying to sell stuff off to go back to the tables and lose it again....

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      Alot of their stuff is off the wall and staged.. I watched that same episode and said what a bunch of B.S... That was a reproduction body, and wasnt an originally as they were trying to portray.. There have been several other vehicles and boats on there that were way over estimated and hyped up..

      The biggest B.S show is the Repo show on Reality T.V. I figured that show might be interesting, but it is a hundred percent fake and they have horrible actors in Stupid Ass situations..

      I hope that people dont think these shows are real, and this is how things work..

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      Quote Originally Posted by Iamtheonlyreal1 View Post

      I hope that people dont think these shows are real, and this is how things work..
      Its scary how many people think these shows are real.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Iamtheonlyreal1 View Post
      I hope that people dont think these shows are real, and this is how things work..
      Quote Originally Posted by 2ndgenhunter View Post
      Its scary how many people think these shows are real.
      I hate to be the one you guys look down on. :bsjerk:
      But there is actually a decent amount of reality to this particular show. Sure, the large purchases are mostly staged (Hot Air Ballon, Shelby, etc.) But the majority of the smaller purchases/sales/etc are usually always real purchases. Whether the people who sell the stuff to the Pawn Shop, are actually "real", who knows?
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      It's one of the best shows on TV. Unfortunately, that's not saying much.
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      I think that reality shows have gotten way out of hand. Jon and Kate plus 8 comes to mind.
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      I love the old man. He is always mouthin off to his family.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Iamtheonlyreal1 View Post

      I hope that people dont think these shows are real, and this is how things work..

      I had to laugh... man on the moon stuff....
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      We have fell into the "REALITY" tv curse...

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      Quote Originally Posted by monza View Post
      I had to laugh... man on the moon stuff....
      Ha Ha... Something totally different. It is easy to see that these programs are dumbed down for the general public. Not the mention the fact that the producers have to keep it interesting. How many times could we watch people pawning Telvisions, Stolen Stereo's, and old movies.. ha ha..

      I have a friend that owns a pawn shop, he would only wish it was that exciting..ha ha

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      I take it for what it is "STUPID TV" better than watching something about the economy at least I can laugh at this dumbasses....
      "Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please"

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      Quote Originally Posted by Iamtheonlyreal1 View Post
      Alot of their stuff is off the wall and staged.. I watched that same episode and said what a bunch of B.S... That was a reproduction body, and wasnt an originally as they were trying to portray.. There have been several other vehicles and boats on there that were way over estimated and hyped up..

      The biggest B.S show is the Repo show on Reality T.V. I figured that show might be interesting, but it is a hundred percent fake and they have horrible actors in Stupid Ass situations..

      I hope that people dont think these shows are real, and this is how things work..
      there are very few companies that make an aluminum body for a CSX chassis. If you compare that Shelby body to say a Kirkham, you would find several differences between the two and yet Kirkham is noted as one of the most faithful replicas. The frame construction and little things like the uprights and rear shock placement are all Shelby. Nobody copies these trends because they suck quite frankly. I could tell from my couch it was a continuation car and it was a legit Shelby. Don't think a bunch of us are going to stamp "CSX" on our factory five cars now because of a show. lol
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      Quote Originally Posted by Iamtheonlyreal1 View Post
      Ha Ha... Something totally different. It is easy to see that these programs are dumbed down for the general public. Not the mention the fact that the producers have to keep it interesting. How many times could we watch people pawning Telvisions, Stolen Stereo's, and old movies.. ha ha..

      I have a friend that owns a pawn shop, he would only wish it was that exciting..ha ha
      Well is your friend's pawn shop in OK? If so, I'm sure in vegas they'd get a lot more "interesting" items. This show is pretty good i think.

      Now the repo show is just stupid. The repo people are actually the real repo people, but the people getting their stuff repoe are total actors. But the whole thing is horrible real repomen reenacting repos. just bad.

      As soon as I saw that car, I thought continuation car also. So it is a real shelby, just not a real 196X.

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