Possible to completely hide the master/booster?

[brrymnvette]

Trying to figure out a way I could get the master and booster out of the engine bay and hidden somewhere. Anyone ever hidden them before or seen it done? Wasn't there a factory car that had this?



I know I'd prob have to go with hydroboost for space savings. Just looking for ideas.

[parsonsj]

Many street rods run masters under the floor.

[MuscleRodz]

astrovan mounts under the dash. there is also a comppany making a 90* mount, I think it is klugel

[Olav]

Take a look here at the pedal box, give you some ideas :-)

https://www.burtonpower.com/product_...&sTxt=pedalbox

Olav

[Randy67]

Plenty of ways to do it:
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/race-b...7=Brake+Pedals

They might not work if you are trying to keep the stock dash/instrument cluster though.

[GRNOVA]

Here is mine It is from Kugel components

[brrymnvette]

thanks guys. That kugal one is exactly how I though of doing it. Guess I can buy it instead make it. Sweet.

[Rhino]

You did mention booster and master. Keep in mind that the Kugal unit is manual. I may be wrong, but I doubt you'd have the space for a vacuum booster. With hydroboost you'll be running hydraulic lines into your passenger compartment. That's a concession in safety and convenience I wouldn't feel comfortable with.

[brrymnvette]

How is it a safety problem?

[turner69camaro]

How is it a safety problem?

I think what he's trying to say is a hydroboost hose could come apart or start leaking. The lines are under a lot of pressure and if blown apart it would ruin anything near it.

[Rhino]

hydraulic lines under pressure can really soak an area in fluid quick. If a hose were to be cut it would spray power steering fluid everywhere. If it happens at the wrong time the pedals would be slick and difficult to keep under control. If it were in a wreck, with a source of ignition, it could cause a fire.
It may be lesser of an issue than I'm thinking, I'm simply thinking it does carry the potential for larger issues.
The comment about inconvenience is in regards to a large percentage of hydroboosts leaking over time. The interior of a car wouldn't be my first choice to have that happen.

If you do decide to go for it, I would be sure to review any rule books for any organizations you may want to compete with (NHRA, SCCA, ect..) for stipulations on passing flammable materials through the passenger compartment.

EDIT: Looks like Kevin beat me to it.

[brrymnvette]

Gotcha, that makes sense. Understandable.

[rixtrix1]

They use a manual master cylinder mounted conventionally that feeds into a remote mounted, {usually alongside the framerail}booster and master. One could use the Kugel Komponents piece under the dash and hide the remote wherever there is room, I'm thinking this was on mid-'70's ford F-500 trucks.

[JRouche]

I think what he's trying to say is a hydroboost hose could come apart or start leaking. The lines are under a lot of pressure and if blown apart it would ruin anything near it.

I have a hydro-boost on one of my vehicles. Its all hard line tubing all the way to the flex lines for each wheel. I dont see any diff than a common brake system using the hydro system. I guess I dont see the extra flex lines. On mine its all hard line right to the wheel cylinders. JR

[JRouche]

hydraulic lines under pressure can really soak an area in fluid quick. If a hose were to be cut it would spray power steering fluid everywhere.

Hose?? I have a hydro boost, works great. No hoses, its all hard line. Till it gets to the wheel, just like any brake system. I wouldnt run flex line for anything but the wheel cylinders. From the pump to the MC it should be all hard line. I have one in use from about 1978 and its solid. JR

[Rhino]

In my experience GM hydroboosts tend to leak from the accumulator over time. They won't do it day one, but in my trucks they seem to start after a few years. It's never a large leak, but enough to cause a drip on the carpet after it's driven a while. It would break down the carpet and cause an overwhelming odor over time.

The hydraulic lines I'm speaking of are from the powersteering unit to the booster, and back to the return. If you were to get a leak in one of those hoses, it won't subside until the pump stops running, which would be when the engine is off.