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    1. #1
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      Engine Hoist Too Short

      What do you do when your engine hoist is too short to reach the intake? I bought a 1 ton engine hoist today and the damn thing is too short to reach the intake lift plate. Is there something I am missing? There is no way to remove the front clip. I am doing all of this by myself. The lift chain is about 5 inches short from the side, even shorter from the front of the car. Here are some pics. Will an engine load leveler give me any length?





      What do I do? I guess I just wasted $130. Sometimes I wish I would get hit by a truck or something.

      Charlie Knudsen
      67 Camaro RS/SS 350


    2. #2
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      I've never pulled an engine with the hoist to the side such as that. I have what appears to be a similar designed hoist. It clears the front no problem. Have you approached it from a different angle?
      If that's not a possibility, how about fabricating a new, longer arm extension? The few inches you're lacking shouldn't cause too much trouble.

      EDIT: Otherwise, I've pulled engines a few times by running a chain across the engine. One bolt in one of the accessory mounts, then across the engine in the back of the head. That will give you a little more leeway. If you do something like that, be ready for the engine to swing hard toward the hoist once it comes off the mounts.

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      That looks like the Harbor Freight engine hoist that I have. If so, i've used it to pull the small block out of my 69 Camaro and the big block out of the donor 1979 GMC pickup I bought and had no issues with clearance when pulling from the front, I never tried pulling from the side though....is there a reason to pull from the side versus the front?
      Robert F.

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      I guess there's a space issue as to why you're not using it the normal way? As in, from the front?

      You don't even have the legs of that hoist down, it's going to tip over when you get some weight on it.

      Jack the car up some, put it on jackstands, put the legs of the hoist down, and extend the arm to where it needs to be. And commence pulling the engine.

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      the ram should drop into the cylinder, pitching the arm down like 45-60 degrees. If it doesn't drop into the cylinder, the shaft is bent or?
      Greg Fast
      (yes, the last name is spelled correctly)

      1970 Camaro RS Clone
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    6. #6
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      Obviously put the legs down. I would hook it from the front using a chain across the heads diagonally, knowing it was going to swing forward as it came off the mounts. Make sure the radiator is out when you do this. You can also cheat it a little and drill another hole a little closer to the end to get a few more inches. That hoist looks a little smaller than most. I wouldn't try to pull the motor and trans together at that setting.
      Greg
      1970 challenger convert-in process
      1970 barracuda-driver

    7. #7
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      Not trying to be a wise guy at all, but seriously if you can't figure out how to do this you really out to stop and get some help before you go any further.

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      Exchange it for a bigger hoist, that one looks too small.
      67 Camaro RS that will be faster than anything Mary owns.

    9. #9
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      It's the same hoist I used on my 69...you must be at the front of the car.
      Todd

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      Raise the car to let the lift get further under the car.

    11. #11
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      like everyone said put the legs down and go from the front of vehicle..ive pulled many this way and that hoist will work you will prolly even have enough room to push the beam into the next weight class slot..
      Darrin Stalnecker
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      Load leveler won't give any more length. Top beam should reach out almost as far as the bottom leg extensions when they're down. Are there multiple holes in the sliding beam? just some thoughts.
      Ric

      2002 s10, DD and AutoX.
      1966 Malibu owned since 1971. Drag car converting to track toy!

    13. #13
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      Quote Originally Posted by Twentyover View Post
      the ram should drop into the cylinder, pitching the arm down like 45-60 degrees. If it doesn't drop into the cylinder, the shaft is bent or?
      X2. There should be a release valve at the base of the bottle jack that will drop the arm down some more. Check the instructions sitting on your fender for its location. You may need to apply some weight to the crane's arm to get it to drop once the release valve has been opened, especially since it's new, sometimes they get a bit sticky when new. There's lots of chrome showing on that cylinder shaft, it should be able to collapse down until the painted end of the shaft lines up with the paint on the body of the bottle jack. Should give you plenty of room to work with.

      Quote Originally Posted by 67Camaro RS/SS 350 View Post
      What do I do? I guess I just wasted $130. Sometimes I wish I would get hit by a truck or something.
      If you try lift that engine out without the legs on the ground you're gonna get your wish!
      Calm down, have a look over your instructions, and be careful. Consider the whole process, from lifting the engine out of the engine bay, to getting the engine on the ground. And yes, definitely lift from the front! Let us know how it goes...

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    15. #15
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      Put the legs down (and locked!), and come from the front. First and foremost, it is IMPOSSIBLE to pull the engine as you are trying to do, from the side.
      Todd S.

      "I like to race school buses..."

    16. #16
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      Quote Originally Posted by 19sixtynine View Post
      That looks like the Harbor Freight engine hoist that I have. If so, i've used it to pull the small block out of my 69 Camaro and the big block out of the donor 1979 GMC pickup I bought and had no issues with clearance when pulling from the front, I never tried pulling from the side though....is there a reason to pull from the side versus the front?
      This is a Harbor Freight crane, but this is their 1 ton crane and it only extends to 50.25". It appears the 2 ton crane extends to 79". The 1 ton must be for imports because I even took the fender off and it's still short by an inch or two. I hope they will let me exchange it. If anyone has plans to purchase an engine crane, make sure it extends to at least 60". If not, you will be in the same boat I am.
      Charlie Knudsen
      67 Camaro RS/SS 350

    17. #17
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      Quote Originally Posted by David Pozzi View Post
      Exchange it for a bigger hoist, that one looks too small.

      Thank you. You seem to be the only guy thinking along those lines.
      Charlie Knudsen
      67 Camaro RS/SS 350

    18. #18
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      Quote Originally Posted by MarkM66 View Post
      I guess there's a space issue as to why you're not using it the normal way? As in, from the front?

      You don't even have the legs of that hoist down, it's going to tip over when you get some weight on it.

      Jack the car up some, put it on jackstands, put the legs of the hoist down, and extend the arm to where it needs to be. And commence pulling the engine.
      It's obvious I need to put the legs down, but why step and stumble over the legs trying to manuver into various positions until I know if it's going to reach? I have the legs up because it makes it easier to move around into various positions until I find out if it will reach. It appears the 1 ton crane is too short, no matter where you go at it from. It only extends to 50.25". The 2 ton crane extends to 79". More than enough. I hope they will let me exchange it.
      Charlie Knudsen
      67 Camaro RS/SS 350

    19. #19
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      Quote Originally Posted by Vegas69 View Post
      It's the same hoist I used on my 69...you must be at the front of the car.

      If I go at it from the front of the car, it comes up even shorter. By removing the fender, I can get it to within 1"-2", but still no go. I am going to try to exchange it for the 2 ton.
      Charlie Knudsen
      67 Camaro RS/SS 350

    20. #20
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      Quote Originally Posted by neki67 View Post
      And take of the hood before you start lifting . . . .

      My son and I pulled the hood off yesterday. I am going to try to exchange it for the 2 ton crane which extends to 79". More than enough.
      Charlie Knudsen
      67 Camaro RS/SS 350

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