Extreme XP upper control arm..Heard of them..??

[Topless69]

Hey guys has anyone heard of these control arms before or is this a new company hitting the market..??

[Rick D]

Got a link. I have not heard of them.

[Topless69]

I saw them on ebay while poking around.I'm not rich and dont plan on autocrossing or anything but I would emagine even a cheaper set would be a possitive with the increased camber etc. That is if the welds dont snap or something like that which wouldn't be very safe.

Heres a link...http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Rick I just noticed that they are WYSCO PRODUCTS.

[79T/Aman]

another kitchen table dealer on ebay

[Lowend]

Looks like cheap knock-offs of the Global West stuff to me.

Don't give them your business - support shops that do their own R&D

[JRouche]

Ok, Ill go against the grain. Ill say from the small pic they dont look bad. From the description I would put my tongue in cheek.

Like this statement.. "have undergone finite element analysis"

But really, ALL companies have had to start from nuthing, that includes Global west. Dont knock a new manufacture for trying to get in the business. I would look at the ebayers record though. Thats seems a lil thin.

Looks like the last set went for 490 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=230377983298

Might be a decent product. Might come from china too. Not that it matters much. Write an email, ask if its built here in the US.

Be expected to go to 490 or so if its any consideration from the last closing. And thats only one guy that decided to post a feedback. How many has he sold. So we look. Oh another set sold for 410..
http://completed.shop.ebay.com/i.htm...c0.m283&_rdc=1

I dont know but Id grab a set. Check them out. You can tell if they are decent. Ask the guy where they were made. Offer him 400 out of ebay. He will still make money. Looks like 45 for shipping is gonna be there too. JR

[Topless69]

I agree with you all pretty much. New company, (china??) who knows. Didn't speed tech start this way..?? Now they have everyones blessings..?......Thanks guys.

[Lowend]

My point is that it's easy to take someone else's product, map it and throw it into a CNC machine.
Of course the product will be cheaper, because the pirate company has all but zero R&D invested

If we do business with "pirate" companies, than the real designers are hurt. If the real folks go out of business, who's going to design the next round of products?

[anarchy99]

I literally just installed that same set of upper and lower control arms on my 69 yesterday. They went in perfectly with zero problems and look great. I buy most everything off ebay and even if it's a "knockoff" of another company product, it's still a great product that I'm pleased with.



The guy shipped them out quickly with tracking numbers and they were well packaged up.

[killer69]

I agree with you all pretty much. New company, (china??) who knows. Didn't speed tech start this way..?? Now they have everyones blessings..?......Thanks guys.

Global west
Detroit Speed
Hotchkis
i guess everyone has to start somewhere. other than the China part. it all depends on what is most important to the company, price, quality or service, you can pick any 2.

but thanks for noticing, "now they have everyones blessings"

[Lowend]

I buy most everything off ebay and even if it's a "knockoff" of another company product

And you sir are part of the reason great companies like ATS are going out of business.
I'm not saying you are a bad guy... but most people don't really make the connection between R&D companies going under, and buying from the cheaper supplier

[anarchy99]

I don't make alot of money in the military so when I can get a good product for a good price, then I do it. The guy asked whether anybody had heard of them or used them so I contributed what info I had on them. You sound like your picking a fight in here.

[Topless69]

No bickering boys, I just never herd of them before. I ALSO am not rich so I try and find good deals where I can BUT ONLY IF THEY ARE SAFE. I prefer to do as much work myself to save on $$$ and I enjoy my time in the garage,plus I get to learn something new.

Ps-I am ALL for our sponcers, If I had 1/2 the money some of you guys have Tobin,Frank and all our sponcers would have my phone # on speed dial....Thanks for all the info and opinions.

[Twentyover]

I don't make alot of money in the military so when I can get a good product for a good price, then I do it. The guy asked whether anybody had heard of them or used them so I contributed what info I had on them. You sound like your picking a fight in here.

As far as being a good product, you don't know that yet. You know they install well, but with what- 24 hours on them, you have no data on durability, weld quality, or a number of other factors that are the parameters I use to judge a products quality.

Indeed you are doing exactly what the OP asked, but I disagree w/ your assesment that Lowend was picking a fight. You may have missed the portion of his post where he said "I'm not saying you are a bad guy... but most people don't really make the connection between R&D companies going under." Look at IBM- they invented the PC market in 1983 or so (yes, i know Apple was around then, but who had the business cred to sell PC's to business- and that's what caused the market to grow) and have totally left the market

Purchases based on price is the reason the middle class is shrinking, why manufacturing jobs are being shipped overseas, and why in 5 or 10 years China will be making foreign policy decisions for the US. Remember the golden rule, he who has the gold makes the rules.

[Rick D]

I have been watching a few different sellers on e bay for the last few months (I won't post a link don't want to promot their stuff) all have the same arms and all in the same price range. I would say that these are from china. I have ask all of the sellers where they are made and I get "they are assembled in the USA". To me that means they are MADE off shore. I first saw these show up over a year ago and the seller had taken the discription right from DSE's web site. Word for word. He sold a few but than was gone, bad feedback. Anyway I would look for used ones over off shore made ones. That is how I found these in the first place looking for a deal on used USA made one. Like most I don't have alot of cash (2 kids in catholic school) so I look for deals all the time.

Ok just counted there are 6 different sellers selling the same arms at least they look the same???

[LateNight72]

And you sir are part of the reason great companies like ATS are going out of business.
I'm not saying you are a bad guy... but most people don't really make the connection between R&D companies going under, and buying from the cheaper supplier

People like ATS are going out of business? Did I miss the threads about a new C5/C6 based spindle setup? :bsjerk:
Maybe people just got tired of the run around?


That aside, I agree with what you are saying.

[sinned]

My point is that it's easy to take someone else's product, map it and throw it into a CNC machine.
Of course the product will be cheaper, because the pirate company has all but zero R&D invested

If we do business with "pirate" companies, than the real designers are hurt. If the real folks go out of business, who's going to design the next round of products?

Yeah, GW did a ton of R&D by taking the "B" spindle (invented and manufactured by General Motors a decade before GW even existed), cleaning it up and re-selling as a "G-machine spindle" and building a tubular control arm (like everybody else on the planet). What excatly did GW research and design from the ground up?I'll give them props for the Del-a-lum bushings (although not invented by them, simply offered in a neat/bolt-on package).

[79T/Aman]

anarchy99 I need to point out something the military is a path you chose and in doing so thank you for your service but keep in mind that supporting product thst is made in countries that use child labor, forced labor, unsafe practices and manufacturing, does not help this country you chose to pretect (but with a name like "anarchy" you probably don't believe in what you do anyway)
Fact is these products are stolen designes and dumped on US shores, illegal by the way, but part of the problem is US companies that design a product and have it manufactured overseas and the same place that maufactures them copies them and dumps them here, as LOWEN mentioned when American ingenuity is gone what then!?

Remember Mr. ANARCHIST that WE pay you through our taxes and as we loose our ability to pay taxes because of these types of things you will also loose your job.

Off my soap box for now

[79T/Aman]

Yeah, GW did a ton of R&D by taking the "B" spindle (invented and manufactured by General Motors a decade before GW even existed), cleaning it up and re-selling as a "G-machine spindle" and building a tubular control arm (like everybody else on the planet). What excatly did GW research and design from the ground up?I'll give them props for the Del-a-lum bushings (although not invented by them, simply offered in a neat/bolt-on package).

So what have you come up with? about putting your money where your mouth is! design something for this hobby then we'll talk

[Bigblue73]

Pro-Comp? Thats what they look like to me.