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    1. #1
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      global west vs. sc&c

      So I want to see which is the best for my buck? Or maybe another brand that you feel is a good upper control arm.
      Eli
      68 camaro more plans then funds! lol
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      I have heard a ton of good things about SC&C from people on this board, I think that is the direction I will be going when the time comes.

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      I have heard good things as well but to me they look like something I can make from homedepots hardwear
      section. Also I wonder how often I would need to tighten them
      Eli
      68 camaro more plans then funds! lol
      http://s34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...view=slideshow

    4. #4
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      You can't beat SC&C's service IMHO...and while the SPC uppers may be too "industrial" for your taste, their quality, fit and finish is excellent in my experience. We have them on our Nova and chose them based on our performance requirements, budget, and Mark's excellent customer service. I personally like the look of them over the more conventional tubular uppers, but I tend towards being a function over form guy when forced to choose. If you need to bling them up a little bit, you can always run the aluminum pro-lite links.

      Nothing wrong with GW, but is there a reason you're not considering SpeedTech, DSE, Hotchkis, etc?

      Tobin
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      Quote Originally Posted by ROEINONDUBS View Post
      I have heard good things as well but to me they look like something I can make from homedepots hardwear
      section. Also I wonder how often I would need to tighten them
      SC&C and here is why.....
      1.The Arms have screw in style balljoints that can accomodate either factory or tall balljoints
      2. The adjustablity of the arms
      3. Mark's service...like many vendors here he will spend the time with you and it not be a "sales pitch" Hell I've BS with him on stuff other than my project while getting tech support from him.

      As for "HomeDepot Hardware" thats way off. The arms are high quality, strong, and when properly torqued and jam nuts set are reliable. I have over 5000 miles of street use and not a single issue.
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    6. #6
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      Tobin thanks once again for the good advice, nick thanks also for the great info its exactly what I was looking for.
      As far as the homedepot comment goes I was referring to the simplistic look of design not quality. Just so everyone knows
      Eli
      68 camaro more plans then funds! lol
      http://s34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...view=slideshow

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      Plus, no shims with the adjustable arms.

      What I hope to do when I have the money is the SC&C package with the AFX spindle and then some C4/5 brakes from Tobin.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ROEINONDUBS View Post
      Tobin thanks once again for the good advice, nick thanks also for the great info its exactly what I was looking for.
      As far as the homedepot comment goes I was referring to the simplistic look of design not quality. Just so everyone knows
      Yeah they do look simple, but they are effective. On a side note if you like doing things yourself these arms make alignments easy. I purchased a fast trax through Mark and it works great.
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    9. #9
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      i will add to this from a design stand point. i built my own UCA/LCA. In my design I use left/right hand threaded tubes for all the links, this allows me to adjust the arms in every aspect. As much caster camber i want.



      i can use screw in ball joints. So my vote goes to SC&C. i agree on his design.

    10. #10
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      No shims A+
      Home alignment sounds great for them track days
      Eli
      68 camaro more plans then funds! lol
      http://s34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...view=slideshow

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      I agree with Tobin.....nice arm for the money. Nothing wrong with the others mentioned, they just cost a bit more.

      I like the adjustability in these arms, and if you run out of adjustment, they have the adjustable sleeves in different lengths so you can't go wrong.

      +1000 on the good customer service, great guy to speak with on the phone, and has tons of knowledge about his products.
      1970 RS/SS350 139K on the clock:
      89 TPI motor w/ 1pc rear seal coupled to a Viper T56 via Mcleod's modular bellhousing w/ hydraulic T/O bearing from the Viper, 12 bolt rear w/ 3.73 gearing, SC&C upper control arms, factory lowers with Delalums, C5 brakes at all four corners, Front Wheels 17x8's with Sumi 255/40/17 and Rear Wheels 17x9's with Sumi 275/40/17.
      Brief description of the work done so far can be found here: http://www.nastyz28.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112454


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      I have Global West upper arms and they are very nice, quality pieces. I love the Del-A-lum bushings.

      I don't think you can go wrong with either. it'll probably come down to personal taste.
      dave.t
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      Quote Originally Posted by Jarcaines View Post
      Plus, no shims with the adjustable arms.

      What I hope to do when I have the money is the SC&C package with the AFX spindle and then some C4/5 brakes from Tobin.
      I can tell you that this exact combination works very well. Mine handles extremely well (far better than I've even come close to testing on the street) and stops quickly and with confidence. Just what a "new" old car should do.
      Jeff K.
      69 Camaro SS, 406 SBC, TKO600, 9" w/3.73 tru-trac, Speedtech Arms, AFX Spindles, Lee 670 Box, Baer GT front, C5Z rear. Hyperco Leafs w/ Fays2 Watts Link + Varishocks.

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      I like my SC&C stage I. Great adjustablity, no shims. And Mark's service is invaluable IMO.

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      I would say that the better suspension depends on your goals.

      If this is a 100% street car, than Global West could be a better choice.
      1) The non-adjustability of the arms can be a good thing if you are just going to set the alignment once and forget about it.
      2) The arms are prettier
      3) The Del-a-lum bushing has the potential to last longer than the solids in the SC&C

      SC&C's customer service really can't be beat - but I do consider their a-arms (which I ran and reccomended to another of my Auto-x buddy's) to be more on the race than street side of things
      1971 Camaro, 383 stroker ~500HP,M21 Trans with lightened flywheel. All Sorts of Auto-x Goodness in the Suspension. 12" Brakes ->SOLD

      But ask me about my 2004 STi Auto-x car...

      Just call me Brett

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      Quote Originally Posted by jknight16 View Post
      I can tell you that this exact combination works very well. Mine handles extremely well (far better than I've even come close to testing on the street) and stops quickly and with confidence. Just what a "new" old car should do.
      Good to hear! Do you happen to have a build thread up?

    17. #17
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      Quote Originally Posted by Jarcaines View Post
      Good to hear! Do you happen to have a build thread up?
      Ya but its kinda not good haha just check my stats
      Eli
      68 camaro more plans then funds! lol
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      One idea from Andrew using the SPC uppers is to set the alignment to 'street' settings. Then use shims to make a 'track' setting and document the shim requirements. Track day adjustments are minutes away and getting back to street is as simple as pulling out the shims.

      Nick R.
      69 Camaro - 383, 700R4, 12 bolt 3.55, Hotchkis, Bilstein, Global West, Morris Classic
      08 HHR SS - Still Stock for now
      Do you still believe in all the things that you stood by before? Are you out there on the front lines, or at home keeping score?
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    19. #19
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      Quote Originally Posted by 6'9"Witha69 View Post
      One idea from Andrew using the SPC uppers is to set the alignment to 'street' settings. Then use shims to make a 'track' setting and document the shim requirements. Track day adjustments are minutes away and getting back to street is as simple as pulling out the shims.
      Not sure how that could be engineered but a toggle switch to change between the two settings would be awesome!

    20. #20
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      I am sure Q built that into a few of 007s Astin Martins!
      Nick R.
      69 Camaro - 383, 700R4, 12 bolt 3.55, Hotchkis, Bilstein, Global West, Morris Classic
      08 HHR SS - Still Stock for now
      Do you still believe in all the things that you stood by before? Are you out there on the front lines, or at home keeping score?
      Do you care to be the layer of the bricks that seal your fate? Would you rather be the architect of what we might create?

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