Project BLUEprint, 1965 Falcon

[Bryce]

Morgan,

Thank you for the insight, was this the borgeson box or the ABS powerbrake box? What is your current solution for steering?

Michael Maier runs the ABS power box and really likes it. But her could make any neccessaty modifications to make it perfect.

[LowFast]

Awesome, finally a rendered Falcon. Bryce, if you do not mind would you PM me the cost, I might need to have him do one for me as well. On another note, if you were to "widebody" a Falcon how would you do it. Fender flares don't work well because of the tear drop shap and low cut. In other words, how do you flare a slab sided car?

[Bryce]

Awesome, finally a rendered Falcon. Bryce, if you do not mind would you PM me the cost, I might need to have him do one for me as well. On another note, if you were to "widebody" a Falcon how would you do it. Fender flares don't work well because of the tear drop shap and low cut. In other words, how do you flare a slab sided car?

He was running a special. If you search his posts he advertised his prices.

We tried to render the widebody and it did not look good at all. That was why I got this rendering was to try a wide body. We tried doing a fender stretch The side body lines make it hard to do any stretch. Maybe if you did a radiused rear wheel well and added on flares. I think DynoDon is doing this?

Another Idea would be to stretch the entire side of the falcon. Making the entire car wider.

[LowFast]

He was running a special. If you search his posts he advertised his prices.

We tried to render the widebody and it did not look good at all. That was why I got this rendering was to try a wide body. We tried doing a fender stretch The side body lines make it hard to do any stretch. Maybe if you did a radiused rear wheel well and added on flares. I think DynoDon is doing this?

Another Idea would be to stretch the entire side of the falcon. Making the entire car wider.

I say no on the radiused wheel well, if you look on my build post I took a few pics with Mustang flares taped on the car, radiusing the wheel openings takes away from what makes a Falcon a Falcon. I thought about the whole car widening, problem is that you get into thicker doors and they clearance issues trying to open them. The Falcon just seems to be a body style that does not lend itself to widening, now if you went to a full frame then you could widen the car down the center and make it as wide and mean as you wanted.

Now get that bad boy painted to we can see it in all its glory!

[Bryce]

I say no on the radiused wheel well, if you look on my build post I took a few pics with Mustang flares taped on the car, radiusing the wheel openings takes away from what makes a Falcon a Falcon. I thought about the whole car widening, problem is that you get into thicker doors and they clearance issues trying to open them. The Falcon just seems to be a body style that does not lend itself to widening, now if you went to a full frame then you could widen the car down the center and make it as wide and mean as you wanted.

Now get that bad boy painted to we can see it in all its glory!

I agree I like the current falcon wheel wells. It can look okay with a radius wheel well. I have seen a few rancheros that look good.

Full frame falcon. that might just be my next project. I really want to build a 1800 pound, aluminum sbf car.

[wellis77]

We tried to render the widebody and it did not look good at all. That was why I got this rendering was to try a wide body.

Exactly why I connected with Shawn about my Dart. Didn't work on mine either. He is doing a wide body Opel Manta for me now, it's looking SWEET!

That rendering looks great, and THAT is the stance you should have! Looks awesome!

[Bryce]

Exactly why I connected with Shawn about my Dart. Didn't work on mine either. He is doing a wide body Opel Manta for me now, it's looking SWEET!

That rendering looks great, and THAT is the stance you should have! Looks awesome!

Yep, I was happy with the work that Shawn put into this. We discussed different ideas throughout the build and he made adjustments when I wanted them.

OOOOHHHHHHHH!!!! I wanna see your next project? What are you doing for a frame/suspension?

[wellis77]

OOOOHHHHHHHH!!!! I wanna see your next project? What are you doing for a frame/suspension?

When I get there we'll be talking... Likely either fresh from the drawing board, or modified c5/c6.

[chunger]

Bryce - that looks killer!

[Bryce]

Bryce - that looks killer!

Thanks!

[windsor]

Sweeeeet....

[fordsbyjay]

I always wondered how it would look with a full widebody like an 80's trans am car. Where they just move the front and rear fenders out a couple inches the doors are in the stock location. The other option (but a ton of work) would be to widen the car like you mentioned. The Falcon has that 'rail' that runs the length of the body (the top of the fenders/door) and I always figured that would be the place to do it.

[Bryce]

I always wondered how it would look with a full widebody like an 80's trans am car. Where they just move the front and rear fenders out a couple inches the doors are in the stock location. The other option (but a ton of work) would be to widen the car like you mentioned. The Falcon has that 'rail' that runs the length of the body (the top of the fenders/door) and I always figured that would be the place to do it.

I will try to find some of the first trials with the widebody and post them up.

Your second idea would work. But I would just do it with a fiberglass body. You can buy everything but rear quarters in fiberglass.

[Bryce]

Sweeeeet....

Thanks! How is your project coming? Did you ever get your r-valance mounted?

[fordsbyjay]

Btw I really like the drawing.

[454bug]

Great rendering Bryce!

Nice color and stance!

[Bryce]

Btw I really like the drawing.

Great rendering Bryce!

Nice color and stance!

Thanks guys! I wish I could get the stance like that. But I think tires are more important than stance. I could go to a 23" diameter tire and a 6" section width then i could lower it another few inches.

[Bryce]

Due to multiple questions about my Watts link, I decided to do a complete write up instead of just pictures. Here is the first installment of my Watts link build. I looked into buy a Fays2 watts bell crank but decided I would build my own as it would fit my cradle design better. When I designed my watts link I calculated lateral translation during vertical suspension travel. With a 4” link to link spacing and a 14” arm I would have zero offset during normal suspension travel. I used ¼” aluminum plate as a starting point. I cut everything with a band saw and finshed them with a disc sander. I bolted them together when I finished sanded them to ensure they were exactly the same. Here is the picture of the start of the bell crank.
Next was to choose some rodends. I chose Aurora aluminum rod ends with ½” hole and a 5/8-18 thread. These are good to ~14,000 pounds.
These rod ends dictated the required spacing for the center of the pivot bolt spacer.

Here you can see the spacer that was used on the center bolt. This was exactly the same as the rod end thickness. The spacer is free floating, not welded or fastened to the bell crank plates. It is just held tight with the rodend connecting bolts and the center pivot bolt.

I used thin nylon insert lock nuts on the rod ends connecting bolts. This allowed me to make the two vertical plates of the cradle closer together. Like most of our cars we have packaging issues. I used grade 8 hex bolts, again to minimize the overall length of the bolts. I could have used countersunk fasteners but this would have weakened the bell crank plates and was not worth extra clearance.

Here is an overview of the assembly.

[johnny68]

sorry Bryce pictures dont do it justice looks a whole lot better in person how ya been bud hows the girls
john

[Bryce]

sorry Bryce pictures dont do it justice looks a whole lot better in person how ya been bud hows the girls
john

John,

Thanks buddy. Not many have been privledged to see my car in person. HAHA, just kidding.

The girls are great! My time on the car has been reduced. So I need to start working on smaller projects rather than something that will take me forever.