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    1. #1
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      dynamat or R-blox

      I am on a tight budget. I am finishing up my floors and want to put dynamat. I have seen the r-blox is a bit less expensive. Should I just pay for the dynamat. Has anyone here used r-blox? I wanted to run second skin but that is out of my budget at this time.


      Thank you.
      ---------Fabian Sanchez-----------
      71 velle Project Syckness ATS,Rushforth wheels,PRRC, Autometer,UMI, Hotchkis,QA1,hood-latches.com, comp cams,


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    2. #2
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      consider fatmat...good product, cheap compared to dyna....there is AMPLE info on dynamat alternatives on this site and through google....

    3. #3
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      anyone else?
      ---------Fabian Sanchez-----------
      71 velle Project Syckness ATS,Rushforth wheels,PRRC, Autometer,UMI, Hotchkis,QA1,hood-latches.com, comp cams,


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    4. #4
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      Try second skin. Just ordered some. I'm sure fatmat is great too. I just don't want to deal with the asphalt smell that is sometimes associated with their product.

      http://www.secondskinaudio.com/
      Marcus K.


      LS7 w/Twin Precision 6266s, Viper T56, 4 link suspension, ATS spindles, Kore3 conversion.

    5. #5
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      My gosh..
      Out of Dynamat Extreme, r-blox& Fatmat, Dynamat is the ONLY way to go.

      The foil is 3 times as thick as R-blox and twice as thick as Fatmat.
      You get 30% more adhesive by weight, compared to each and the adhesive on Dynamat is butyl and will not melt, where as the R-blox and fatmat is actually a gutter tape with an asphalt adhesive that will melt at 180 degrees (and is toxic)

      Of of the choices you listed above, there is only one vibration damper, the others are roofing tape that looks like a vibration damper and is sold to the public under false pretenses.

      As the owner of Second Skin I have a lot of worth while competition out there.
      Cascade, Dynamat, Stinger, Hushmat etc. But Fatmat & R-blox are two of the only competitors out ther that I personally have no respect for.

      Sorry to be such a bummer..

      ANT

      PS.. It will take slightly more that 2 layers of fatmat to get similar resuls as the Dynamat Extreme.
      If you have a limited budget, maybe $150. Spend it all on a superior product, then spread that out evenly over the entire surface area of the sheet metal, focusing on the flatter areas. This will yield the same results as 100% coverage with an inferior product.
      Last edited by Second Skin Rep; 08-05-2009 at 05:46 PM.

    6. #6
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      I just bought 36 ft2 of Dynamat off eBay for $135 delivered to Oregon.
      Lee
      1966 Cutlass


      The difference between truth & fiction: fiction has to make sense.

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    7. #7
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      Ant would you recommend using the damplifier lite on the hole car to cover 100% of the floor & doors? This looks to be your least expensive product and I would like to run your product as the pro is a bit much for my wallet at this time. What if any would be the downfall?
      ---------Fabian Sanchez-----------
      71 velle Project Syckness ATS,Rushforth wheels,PRRC, Autometer,UMI, Hotchkis,QA1,hood-latches.com, comp cams,


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    8. #8
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      There is also RAAMmat which has provided a good value product.
      Mike

    9. #9
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      Just thought I'd provide some reference for you guys, since my biggest stress was not knowing how much I would need to buy.

      On my Camaro (Chevelle might need a bit more) I was able to cover the front driver and passenger floorboards (up to the vertical portion of the firewall), smaller rear driver and passenger floorboards, and front half of my transmission tunnel with 10 sheets of Damplifier Pro. Your priority areas may vary, but lots of my heat and noise came through the leg and foot area (as you would expect). I also used two sheets (2'x6' I believe) of second skin heat wave pro to cover those same areas plus a little more on the trans tunnel.

      I was on a budget too so I wanted to hit the key heat and noise trouble areas on my car with the best product I could buy. I got a great deal through one of Ant's dealers.

      Jeff K.
      69 Camaro SS, 406 SBC, TKO600, 9" w/3.73 tru-trac, Speedtech Arms, AFX Spindles, Lee 670 Box, Baer GT front, C5Z rear. Hyperco Leafs w/ Fays2 Watts Link + Varishocks.


    10. #10
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      Quote Originally Posted by 1badchevelle View Post
      Ant would you recommend using the damplifier lite on the hole car to cover 100% of the floor & doors? This looks to be your least expensive product and I would like to run your product as the pro is a bit much for my wallet at this time. What if any would be the downfall?
      Damplifier Lite is a great produc tfor the money and the weight.
      We developed it to compete agaist brands like Fatmat, Raammat and B-quiet. Somthing with a foil that is 50% thicker, with a better adhesive and coems in sheets rather than in rolls.
      Compred to these brands it does an awesome job, but compared to our regular Damplifier and Damplifier Pro products it is much less of a performer.
      With Damplifier Lite I do reccomend 100% coverage.
      Products like Damplifier will only need about 50-60% coverage and Damplifier PRo can get away with 30% or so to get the same results.
      Keep in mind though, if you go with 100% coverage of Damplifier or Damplifier Pro the results will be out of this world! Absolutelky amazing. On a budget though, or when only tryin to reduce the harmonics in the sheet metal you can use much less of a High quality product to get better resutls than full coverage of a low quality product.

      Hope that helps!



      There is also RAAMmat which has provided a good value product.
      True. Raammat has a lot of happy customers that continue time and time again to purchase from Rick.


      I just bought 36 ft2 of Dynamat off eBay for $135 delivered to Oregon.
      Good price especially when shipping is thrown in to the mix. Dynamat Extreme is a great product. You shoul dbe very happy!


      ANT

    11. #11
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      What would be nice, is a car specific kit. Perhaps good, better, best options. The kit should have all the right products and quantity needed to get the desired coverage and results.
      Dave from Paradise..


    12. #12
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      I'm happy with my Damplifier in my car. I used it on the floors along with the heat wave pro. If you are producing big horsepower that means big heat. Between the damplifier, heat wave, and carpet. My floors stay nice and cool and the car is fairly quiet.
      Todd

    13. #13
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      Hushmat is the same thing as dynamat but cheaper

    14. #14
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      Quote Originally Posted by Smitty_67 View Post
      What would be nice, is a car specific kit. Perhaps good, better, best options. The kit should have all the right products and quantity needed to get the desired coverage and results.
      Dynamat must have heard you. They are coming out with car specific kits!
      Lee
      1966 Cutlass


      The difference between truth & fiction: fiction has to make sense.

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    15. #15
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      dynamat extreme is the way to go. the other stuff is not the same.

    16. #16
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      if budget is a concern then I would try fatmat rattle trap extreme- I purchased 200 sq ft of this on ebay for about $320 shipped- it is 80mils thick and is super sticky-to buy the same amount of dynamat is over $1000, so far I have done the whole trunk, the roof, inside the doors, floor, firewall, rear passenger panel (where the windows goes) . I recommend using a heat gun to help get it into curves and I also bought a formica roller( $12 at home depot) because the little wood roller they give you is junk,( but you still need it for the small tight spots) also have a nice razor knife and a bunch of blades, the blades will gum up. Also a box of nitrile gloves just to keep your hands clean and dirt off the fatmat.I would heat the material up to make it more pliable. I still have about 50 sq ft left but I will double some areas up just to make the car that much more quiet. The difference in the sound of the panels is amazing, there is no "tinnyness" when tapping a panel, and when you shut the door there is a SOLID thunk. The car is a 65 GTO. Be prepared to spend a long time doing this, heating up the material and rolling out all the air is a tedious process but very much worth it

    17. #17
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      I'll put a word in for Second Skin. The Damplifier is excellent. Absolutly no heat comes through the floor or firewall. My doors all close with a thud. No rattles allowed.

    18. #18
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      And how about props for a vendor who respects his competition to the level Ant does.
      Nick R.
      69 Camaro - 383, 700R4, 12 bolt 3.55, Hotchkis, Bilstein, Global West, Morris Classic
      08 HHR SS - Still Stock for now
      Do you still believe in all the things that you stood by before? Are you out there on the front lines, or at home keeping score?
      Do you care to be the layer of the bricks that seal your fate? Would you rather be the architect of what we might create?

    19. #19
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      Another second skin customer here. I used Damplifier Pro everywhere. Pretty much 100% coverage. Then Luxury Liner Pro on the firewall, the floor and the trunk. Since I have a vert, along with poly body mount bushings, solid motor mounts, and a bottom filled pontiac standard block making close to 600hp, I wanted to do what I could to minimize the "bad" noise.

      The Damplifier Pro was awesome to work with. No heat guns or anything other than the provided small roller and a single knife blade were required. It sticks - period. It easily applies and rolls. No issues in corners, crevices, angles or rounded areas. Not a single solitary corner of a single piece came loose.

      The Luxury Liner Pro was also great to work with - you use spray adhesive for it.

      For a convertible, the car feels "solid".

      I've used Dynamat. I have a little Dynamet Extreme. Damplifier Pro is better. Fatmat isn't even remotely in the same league. My viewpoint is that you only want to apply this stuff once, so don't cut corners.

    20. #20
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      well said men! I am not familiar with second skin but he def. sounds like he knows his stuff. Fatmat is junk! Spend a little more and get the Dynamat or damplifier. You can find good deals out there on Dynamat for around 135.00 shipped. Don't waste your time on the others. You will regret it later

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