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    Thread: Steering box

    1. #1
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      Steering box

      Are agr steering boxes any good?



    2. #2
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      what car do you have?

      I have a 72 A body el camino and just did a popular Jeep Grand Cherokee swap that everyone does.

      It was a fraction of a cost as an AGR box and probably almost as stiff.


      so anyways, what car is it going on?

      Matt

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      If it's a camaro, an IROC box is hard to beat.

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      Is the grand cherokee swap a direct bolt in? What adjustments need to be made?

      Thanks!

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      Drove my car last night for the first time this year and Im still amazed at the feel of my Lee 600 box. Makes the car so much more enjoyable to drive.
      Nothing says "I built this" better than tool marks and dykem blue..

      Follow my 3 link build. https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=61592

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      Have an AGR box in a 70 chevelle for about 5yr's now and happy with it.

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      I just got an IROC box installed in my 68 Camaro...haven't had a chance to drive it a whole lot yet, but the little bit I have I noticed a HUGE difference. It's heavier feeling, not sloppy and ultra-light like the original steering that was in the car....A really good investment in my opinion....
      Bill
      68 Camaro, 350/350, IROC steering box

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      Quote Originally Posted by GOAT756 View Post
      Are agr steering boxes any good?
      Yes. They are top quality pieces and worth every dollar invested into them.

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      Top quality is a strech knowing the competition.. LEE ATS Detroit Speed.
      Nothing says "I built this" better than tool marks and dykem blue..

      Follow my 3 link build. https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=61592

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      I couldnt tell you the difference between a DSE and AGR box other than the DSE one is a hundred more, and takes a special shaft. The elco that has the AGR box in it has seen use hard enough to snap the UCA cross shaft(that was a fun crash) and its still in great shape, ran it OUT of fluid at least twice too.

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      Exsplain what special shaft? Rag joint you mean maybe. running it out of fluid would not hurt it pump yes box no.
      Nothing says "I built this" better than tool marks and dykem blue..

      Follow my 3 link build. https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=61592

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      Quote Originally Posted by noobwrench View Post
      I couldnt tell you the difference between a DSE and AGR box other than the DSE one is a hundred more, and takes a special shaft. The elco that has the AGR box in it has seen use hard enough to snap the UCA cross shaft(that was a fun crash) and its still in great shape, ran it OUT of fluid at least twice too.
      REALY!!!!!!!!! two different boxes alltogether.............
      https://www.protouringf-body.com "doing what they say can't be done"

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      We just installed a Chassisworks box on a 67 and I can't tell you what a difference it made!

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      Quote Originally Posted by SixtyAte View Post
      Is the grand Cherokee swap a direct bolt in? What adjustments need to be made?

      Thanks!
      It is sort of a direct bolt in. Put your a-body pitman arm on it and it bolts right to the frame. The only special pieces need are a mid 80's Chevy truck rag joint and adapters for the power steering hoses to adapt you old style hoses to the newer style ports in the box. Lee sells the adapters and rag joint in a kit for around $100 last I checked. You can also modify your steering shaft to accept the solid Jeep shaft so the rag joint isn't needed. The adapters still are unless you update your power steering pump to the new style fittings then custom hoses are required unless you can find an OEM one that will work
      Brad Shepard
      69 Malibu
      Marshall, MO

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      Lee has the best boxes around

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      does the iroc bolt right in the 68 camaro?

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      Quote Originally Posted by astross89 View Post
      does the iroc bolt right in the 68 camaro?
      I bought an 87 IROC steering box at Napa Auto parts, and then a power steering pump and the high pressure line for the early 350 Chevy...The box bolted on just fine, the only thing I needed was some adapters from Lee's to get the older style high pressure line to mate to the newer power steering box.

      I found links to several articles on the swap here on PT....Here's one:

      https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/sh...=steering+pump

      Here is another page I found through PT:

      http://69camaro.nextmill.net/steering.html

      I paid and had the work done, but I probably could have done it myself, I just knew it would take me way too long to set aside the time to do it...

      It steers like a new car now though!!!!!!
      Bill
      68 Camaro, 350/350, IROC steering box

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      I just finished installing an AGR billet series in my '69 Chevelle. It has about the same effort as my daily driver 350z. A much needed improvement. I can't compare them to other offerings but it was night and day compared to the worn OEM box.
      1969 Chevelle SS396
      Currently figuring out more ways to make simple tasks difficult.
      Build thread...
      --Dan

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      dont get me wrong I wasnt calling it absolute junk just stating a known fact around this and many more sites/comunities that the Lee Box is King right now.
      Nothing says "I built this" better than tool marks and dykem blue..

      Follow my 3 link build. https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=61592

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      I've done almost all the swaps out there...IROC, Jeep, AGR, Unisteer rack, LS1 Camaro retro kit, Mustang rack and none even come close to the feel and performance of a Lee mod 600 box in an old car.
      Save your money and get the best. You will not regret it.

      The Jeep is a 600 series box and it is nice but the internal work that Lee does just makes it even better.
      MrQuick ΜΟΛ'ΩΝ ΛΑΒ'Ε


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