Project Flyin' Blind at prodigy Customs

[Steve68]

so, who's gonna school me on the G link vs the G Bar,

I planned on running a Prodigy bar, or the G Bar, which one is it?? Frank?? which one is it?

[navyflyer72]

I wish I could school you on this, that would mean I know ANYTHING about rear suspensions! hahaha which I obviously don't, but I do like to learn, so I will get reading. I have read a lot of what Pozzi posts on the topic.

Frank do you have any sage words about what the differences are? I say hell if it will run like a raped ape on the track I am game. But then I need a roll cage, and harnesses and a whole lot more horsepower... hold on, I do need all of that!

[Steve68]

I'd go with yes on all the above!!

[ProdigyCustoms]

The basic geometry of the G Bar / Prodigy Bar and G link are basically the same. The G Link is best described as a second generation G bar which is beefed up for strength and has added adjust ability. The upper and lower arms have multiple positions to change instant center / anti squat. The arms on the G Link are much thicker (larger diameter) then the original G Bar. The pivot ball ends are beefier / stronger, and there is a offset option for the lower arms that moves the arms inboard for better tire clearance on mini tub cars.

[navyflyer72]

Sounds good to me. I'm a big fan of strength, so I'm sticking with the G Link. Thanks for the input Frank.

Can't wait for an update/pics.

[Steve68]

Cool, thanks Frank, Looks we'll be doing the same style rear suspension,

[navyflyer72]

Nice, I'm in good company then!

[Steve68]

I just have to get with Frank in ordering the kit,

[navyflyer72]

Ditto, I just have to convince Frank that Flyin' Blind can bring attention... anyone interested in doing an article?!? I have a solid story already written, just need to get a magazine interested in publishing it.

C'mon I know there are some connected folks on here...

[navyflyer72]

Frank, what's the chance we can get some pics and an update on Flyin' Blind now that SEMA is over? Mini Tubs were installed in March, sub frame connectors were done somewhere around June... waiting for pics... or an update... or anything. With me leaving for Afghanistan in January for a year I was really hoping to have her before then, but it looks like that is a lost cause at this point. Even if you did put her in the shop and make her a priority I would get her in the middle of winter. To say that I am disappointed is a huge understatement. I have been about as excited as anyone on here who has had a car at your place to get work done. I have also been more than patient. You've had my Camaro since January 2008. I have been emailing since August 2008 that I have the money to finish off everything we had talked about (after I got back from Afghanistan last time). So now I need to see some progress, since I have not seen anything yet. I don't think there is anyone on here who would say I am asking for too much to see some progress pictures and an update after almost 3 years. If I lived in Orlando I would just drive over, but I am in Maryland and am in workups for a long deployment, so you can see that my schedule is very full. Everyone on here wants to see the pics also, so since you are in the winter season I'm sure you can find time to send someone in to snap a few pictures.

[Texan]

3 months now with no pics or updates? Gulp!
Hopefully it will be good news when you finally see or hear something...

[navyflyer72]

I wish it had only been three months, it's been almost 3 years without pictures. Try going that long without seeing your project when you are imagining all the great things that Prodigy is supposed to be doing to her... it is painful to say the least. The only thing keeping me going is Frank's demonstrated work quality and reputation. Otherwise I would have been pulling up with a truck and trailer a long time ago.

I am trusting Frank and the crew at Prodigy more than I would almost any other shop... I have no reason not to trust them, but my patience is wearing out. I'm all about having the work done right, but I am also all about getting my car back.

[ProdigyCustoms]

Well, I have been patient trying to figure out exactly how to respond to this, or whether to respond to it at all.

This is absolutely the exact 180 degree WRONG approach to squeezing your car back into the system.

I will say I WILL NOT post all YOUR dirty laundry unless I am pushed any farther. I have too much class for that.

But I guess at this point I am left with little choice to respond so.................

Let's lay this out.

(1) I am not the one that broke this agreement

(2) You have not called or emailed me since 8/30

(3) We were working like crazy on your project, your car would have been done ahead of schedule had I not been completely blindsided when you could not pay even your parts bill

(4) We were buying all your parts, with our money to the tune of over $20K

(5) You could not pay even for the parts

(6) I have a HUGE email trail on this. I won't post the emails between your wife and I but lets just acknowledge your wife was more surprised then me to find out about the bills

(7) Your wife asked if your car could go on hold and wanted the car to be sold

(8) You did catch up your parts bill and I am holding a labor bill of $5K or so that I have not even asked for. that $5K IS NOT a sticking point BTW as I mentioned I have not even asked for it, but you need to understand I still proceed forward in good faith. Even though I think based on the previous circumstances it would be fair to request payment in advance.

(9) You informed me earlier in the year that you now have the money to finish the car

(10) I explained we had tons of other work going on and I would have to SQUEEZE you through the system now

(11) I WILL NOT punish my present customers that have done nothing wrong and push their car back and force yours in front of them because now you have the money.

(12) We have done the mini tubs and frame rails and I do owe you those pics, but as I mentioned in a post above your car is sleeping in the trailer. And to be honest since I have not heard from you in 3 months I have not thought about your pics

(13) I told you that even though we had a labor increase of $10 per hour since out original agreement that since I was going to SQUEEZE you through the shop and NOT disrupt my current good paying customers, I would honor the original rate

(14) I have not charged or threatened one pennies storage even though state guidelines are $35 for indoor storage per day

(15) You were supposed to be here in June to see your tubs in person, no show, no call

(16) You obviously forgot, My phone number is 407 832 1752. I suggest you let me cool down before calling.

[parsonsj]

I'm locking this thread. Only George and Frank may post. If either of you wish to post, PM me and I'll unlock the thread for you and then lock it back up.

This is the standard policy here at PT.com when we have a customer/shop dispute; the idea is to keep other posters from piling on and muddying the waters.

jp

[ProdigyCustoms]

Pulled it out of the trailer for pics today