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    1. #1
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      Quote Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 View Post

      Did anyone get lap times?
      Steve,

      IMO Those are nasty words. This event was about having fun, and was not a competitive TT event. Lap times are immaterial. We don't want anyone feeling bad because they were not as fast. Plus the cars were so different, as were the driver skill levels. We had race cars with license plates that were trailered and daily drivers from Los Angeles and the Bay Area that were driven to the track. If you want lap times join NASA and run in your designated TT class (most cars would be in the Unlimited class) where you are judged by your lap times. Everyone did great and it was a great time. Some organizations do not allow lap timing of any sort.

      Regards

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      Quote Originally Posted by CurtiSS 69 View Post
      Steve,

      IMO Those are nasty words. This event was about having fun, and was not a competitive TT event. Lap times are immaterial. We don't want anyone feeling bad because they were not as fast. Plus the cars were so different, as were the driver skill levels. We had race cars with license plates that were trailered and daily drivers from Los Angeles and the Bay Area that were driven to the track. If you want lap times join NASA and run in your designated TT class (most cars would be in the Unlimited class) where you are judged by your lap times. Everyone did great and it was a great time. Some organizations do not allow lap timing of any sort.

      Regards

      CurtiSS 69
      Wow.. calm down there.. I just asked. I seemed to remember that some people (ok, alot of people) rented transponders.. I guess they just did it for decoration.

      1. where did I say it wasn't about having fun?
      2. where did I say it was a competition?

      IMO you're a bit touchy.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 View Post
      Wow.. calm down there.. I just asked. I seemed to remember that some people (ok, alot of people) rented transponders.. I guess they just did it for decoration.

      1. where did I say it wasn't about having fun?
      2. where did I say it was a competition?

      IMO you're a bit touchy.
      Sorry Steve,

      I would like to keep these events low pressure and safe for those out there on the fence to join us, and those that were there with us. A track day can be pretty intimidating for someone new in a car they built themselves. I would like to see double the amount of P-T cars out there. If the first step is too big it will be only the faster more experienced guys.

      I know they had transponders, and if you're in the Open Group and setting a car up lap timing is extremely useful. None of us ran in the Open Group. Someone trying to put a good lap time in in a load of traffic is a dangerous thing. I want to keep it friendly and safe.

      This is just my opinion.

      BTW thanks for posting the great video!

      Regards

      CurtiSS 69

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      Quote Originally Posted by CurtiSS 69 View Post
      I would like to keep these events low pressure and safe for those out there on the fence to join us, and those that were there with us. A track day can be pretty intimidating for someone new in a car they built themselves. I would like to see double the amount of P-T cars out there. If the first step is too big it will be only the faster more experienced guys. Let's keep it fun if we can.
      Running on a track for the first time in a car I drove to the event with Mary Pozzi in her race car, CarlC in his supercharged car, Nick in the supercharged 2010 Camaro, Dave in his extremely fast 69 Chevelle and Craig in his race car, all of whom have multiple-multiple track days, intimidating? Whatever gives you that idea?

      LOL, I pointed so many people by I think I have carpal tunnel syndrome in my left wrist.
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      Quote Originally Posted by CurtiSS 69 View Post
      Sorry Steve,

      I would like to keep these events low pressure and safe for those out there on the fence to join us, and those that were there with us. A track day can be pretty intimidating for someone new in a car they built themselves. I would like to see double the amount of P-T cars out there. If the first step is too big it will be only the faster more experienced guys.

      I know they had transponders, and if you're in the Open Group and setting a car up lap timing is extremely useful. None of us ran in the Open Group. Someone trying to put a good lap time in in a load of traffic is a dangerous thing. I want to keep it friendly and safe.

      This is just my opinion.

      BTW thanks for posting the great video!

      Regards

      CurtiSS 69
      I think of track times (and times in general) as being more a gauge of progress... after all, it's nice to see over the course of the day that you're making progress (reflected in faster times). After all, without times it's hard to know if you are making forward progress in your driving skill.

      I never suggested it become a "race" or that people drive past thier comfort/skill level just to get a time better than Joe Blow. Quite a few people got transponders so I was curious if they made improvements during the day.

      Friendly is good.. safe is better.. and we should always keep it fun. So see, we are in full agreement
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      A track day can be pretty intimidating for someone new in a car they built themselves....
      CurtiSS 69[/QUOTE]


      That would be me! I built my car myself (still not finished) and drove it to the event. I have to tell you just sharing space with purpose built cars is intimidating, but at the same time i was quite proud to be able to say i ran this event (albeit in the driving school class) with you guys.

      Thanks Curtis for organizing, and thanks to everyone else for encouragement and support. Oh, looks like I made it into at least one photo (white original paint '69).

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      Quote Originally Posted by CurtiSS 69 View Post
      Steve,

      IMO Those are nasty words. This event was about having fun, and was not a competitive TT event. Lap times are immaterial. We don't want anyone feeling bad because they were not as fast. Plus the cars were so different, as were the driver skill levels. We had race cars with license plates that were trailered and daily drivers from Los Angeles and the Bay Area that were driven to the track. If you want lap times join NASA and run in your designated TT class (most cars would be in the Unlimited class) where you are judged by your lap times. Everyone did great and it was a great time. Some organizations do not allow lap timing of any sort.

      Regards

      CurtiSS 69
      You probably misunderstood Steve, don't think that's what he was getting at. You sir are a hell of a driver, it was great watching you work your car around the track.............

      Jody

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      What a great event! I've had such a bad year and this is just what I needed to cheer me up!!! I don't think I've seen so many of us together at one time, it's too bad we didn't get a picture of all of us together. It was great seeing old freinds and meeting new ones.

      The Chevelle ran the best it ever has, I could do no wrong... probably due to the Nitto -01's. That is a great tire! The alternater problem just turned out to be a loose nut. duh and I drove back to Fresno with no problems. ;-)
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      Quote Originally Posted by CurtiSS 69 View Post
      Steve,

      IMO Those are nasty words. This event was about having fun, and was not a competitive TT event. Lap times are immaterial. We don't want anyone feeling bad because they were not as fast. Plus the cars were so different, as were the driver skill levels. We had race cars with license plates that were trailered and daily drivers from Los Angeles and the Bay Area that were driven to the track. If you want lap times join NASA and run in your designated TT class (most cars would be in the Unlimited class) where you are judged by your lap times. Everyone did great and it was a great time. Some organizations do not allow lap timing of any sort.

      Regards

      CurtiSS 69
      Hi Don,

      Transponders were available if you wanted timing but not everyone did. A few in our group were curious and did rent them (I didn't so have no idea on my times). And where is Cotton Corner in relation to Start/Finish? Is it that 180 degree corner at the south end?

      Cheers,
      Mary Pozzi
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      Quote Originally Posted by mpozzi View Post
      Hi Don,

      Transponders were available if you wanted timing but not everyone did. A few in our group were curious and did rent them (I didn't so have no idea on my times). And where is Cotton Corner in relation to Start/Finish? Is it that 180 degree corner at the south end?

      Cheers,
      Mary Pozzi
      Mike Kelcy - '68 Camaro with some stuff done to it.

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      Ahh, yes. I saw a couple cars leave the track at the tail end of Cotton Corners during my sessions.

      Mary Pozzi
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      Quote Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 View Post

      Did anyone get lap times?
      My best lap was a 2:24.822.
      I've never driven Buttonwillow, so I have no idea what that means. I do know I had a freaking blast on that lap. I think that was a clean lap without having to pass any of the slower cars.
      I found out that the stock Pirelli's went up 10 lbs in air pressure after a session. Once I brought the front tires down 10 lbs, the car loosened up quite a bit. It was still a little tight, but not nearly as bad as when they had 51 lbs of air pressure.

      Nick L.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 View Post
      A few laps with David Pozzi:



      The link gives better resolution though..

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrhKJhDHB38

      Did anyone get lap times?
      You left the pin in the fire bottle release.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Damn True View Post
      You left the pin in the fire bottle release.
      That's becuase it looks so cool swinging back and forth!

      Actually, that's my one big "poser" deal.. the main fire pull doesn't work.

      When we did the interior the lines were supposed to be laid under the carpet. It was forgotten. Since then I've figured out how to run the lines, but I haven't had the time. Recently I added a cross bar to my cage and now I have a place to mount the bottle.

      It will be working by SEMA. Cutting holes in my floor is more important at this point.
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      Hey Steve, I think your Longacre tire gauge is occuping space in my garage. Give me a call on my mobile and perhaps we can meet on Tuesday since I'll be down your way.

      Penny and my Camaro, a match made in heaven!

      Nick and I had a blast out there for almost an entire session. We had a difficult time getting several laps in a row where we we're not hung up with traffic, but it was game-on when things opened up. Dave and I also had some fun during several of the sessions learning each others lines.
      Last edited by CarlC; 10-04-2009 at 03:40 PM.
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      Quote Originally Posted by CarlC View Post
      Hey Steve, I think your Longacre tire gauge is occuping space in my garage. Give me a call on my mobile and perhaps we can meet on Tuesday since I'll be down your way.

      Penny and my Camaro, a match made in heaven!

      Nick and I had a blast out there for almost an entire session. We had a difficult time getting several laps in a row where we we're not hung up with traffic, but it was game-on when things opened up. Dave and I also had some fun during several of the sessions learning each others lines.
      Yea, it was a blast... how many more quarts do you need for your oil change.. three? I'll bring them to the prisoner exchange.. lol

      You can give me Mary's funnel as well and I will send it up to her with the rest of the items I owe her.

      Yep, you and Nick (in the 2010) were neck and neck.. blower on blower action.. lol
      "A ship in port is safe, but that's not what ships are built for."

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      1971 Chevelle Wagon with a few mods:
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      Quote Originally Posted by CarlC View Post

      Nick and I had a blast out there for almost an entire session. We had a difficult time getting several laps in a row where we we're not hung up with traffic, but it was game-on when things opened up. Dave and I also had some fun during several of the sessions learning each others lines.
      Carl, you and me battling on the last session was epic. After that I was done for the day. I had nothing left.
      That was the most fun I've had on track...ever.

      Nick L.

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      Quote Originally Posted by nickdoe6 View Post
      Carl, you and me battling on the last session was epic. After that I was done for the day. I had nothing left.
      That was the most fun I've had on track...ever.

      Nick L.
      I checked and found some very cool pics of the '10 shot by the track photographer.

      Tried to get gridded close to both of you guys but there were too many cars in between. The three of us flying about would have been much fun. Gotta do it again and soon.

      Cheers,
      Mary Pozzi
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      Quote Originally Posted by mpozzi View Post

      Tried to get gridded close to both of you guys but there were too many cars in between. The three of us flying about would have been much fun. Gotta do it again and soon.
      Mary, that would have been way too much fun.
      Okay, so let's do it next time for sure...

      Nick L.

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      Quote Originally Posted by nickdoe6 View Post
      Mary, that would have been way too much fun.
      Okay, so let's do it next time for sure...

      Nick L.
      Next time I want to have all four brake corners bolted in place.. that think was too brutal to be fun.. Dave is a madman!
      "A ship in port is safe, but that's not what ships are built for."

      1968 Track Rat Camaro:
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      1971 Chevelle Wagon with a few mods:
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