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    1. #1
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      Baer's new 6 piston caliper ?

      I am about to order one of these kits . does anyone have any pics of what they look like? they said they are offering 13.5 , 14 and 15" rotor options .
      also the rear are now coming with a dual piston 13" rotor up from a single piston and 12" . i am excited
      much cheaper than those alcons they used to sell . can anyone help ?



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      very similar to the alcon but they have dust seals and anti rattle clips for the pads .they should be pretty nice .

    3. #3
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      Awesome Id like to see this also.Im thinking of upgrading my brakes.The old track system is looking old.

      Chris
      1971 RS Z28 Pro-touring thing......will it ever be done??

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      Piston Sizes???

      I need to know the piston sizes...
      Jeff
      1971 RS Camaro: PAINKILLER

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      I have a set on order for a 6 piston S caliper with 15" 2pc rotors for the front, and a 6 piston 14" rear for a 67 Camaro. Baer said it would ship last month, but they are still not here. When they show (possibly in April last I checked) I'll post up all I can on them.

      Tyler

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      I also have a set on order, 13" front with 6 piston calipers, and 13"rear. Will post when received.
      Jeff

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      also have a set on order, 13" front with 6 piston calipers, and 13"rear. Will post when received.
      Could you be so kind to tell us what the cost is? I am sure others would like to know too.

      Thanks


    8. #8
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      It is my understanding that the new six pot calipers have the same size pistons as the Alcon's they used previously (imagine that). Someone that gets a new set can substantiate that, but the piston sizes in my Alcon units are 1.188, 1.375, 1.625 for a total effective piston area (count one side only for fixed caliper designs) of 4.67", squared. For comparison, a C4 front PBR has an effective area of 3.51 in2, and the C5 units are 3.89 in2.

      15" rotor! Whew! Dat's big.... 20" wheels required?

      Mark

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      Mark-

      Yeah, it is running a 20x10 and a 20x12 combo with C5 front suspension, and C4 rear IRS. Should be wicked when done, as I managed to get the entire big block to sit behind the front axle center line.

      Tyler

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      pics sure would be nice

    11. #11
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      Quote Originally Posted by datsbad
      pics sure would be nice
      Sorry they are so late, but here they are:



      Let me know if you want pics of the car as well.

      Tyler

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      What I want to see is a kit like Brembo built for the A/B-bodies. We're struggling to clear calipers on 12 inch rotors in a 16inch rim, 13inch rotors in a 17inch wheel, etc. The Beemer and Mercedes are clearing massive rotors with 17/18 inch wheels. Make that technology work for our cars. Would be bad ass.

      Mind you, I think 6 piston calipers in the rear is overkill. Even 6 piston fronts are overkill for what most cars see. So why would I want that big ass brake set-up by a top end euro company. odd. Just my opinion though. Dont get me wrong I'll build something overkill but I dont have money to buy things just to say I do. I'm happy with 2 pistons up front and singles in the back.

      -Matt
      Matt
      72 Chevelle 370ci, 76mm single turbo, TKX, Speedtech Track Time, Millerbuilt Strange full floater 9", Brembo brakes, BC Forged 18x11s with 315s square
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    13. #13
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      Movit-DE offers Brembo brake kits for A-bodies. I've seen a 15" rotor kit with their six piston calipers. http://www.movit.de/htm/homefut2.htm

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      Quote Originally Posted by USAZR1
      Movit-DE offers Brembo brake kits for A-bodies. I've seen a 15" rotor kit with their six piston calipers. http://www.movit.de/htm/homefut2.htm

      MOVIT doesnt offer Brembo kits they produce their own kits, 100% made in Germany.

      Here is a MOVIT 459x36 6 piston caliper kit, its a 15" rotor to the right




      And the "smaller" 370x35 6 piston caliper kit.


    15. #15
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      When Guido Frensmayer owned the company,they offered Brembo kits for A-bodies. I bought a Brembo kit for my 90 ZR-1 Corvette from Movit-DE and Guido tried to sell me a kit for my El Camino.
      He no longer owns the company,however.

    16. #16
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      Without question, the previous Movit kits were based upon Porsche calipers (and rotors, for that matter!). It could be a question of a re-label of the Brembo parts, rather than them actually making their own calipers. Not that it matters terribly, mind you. Porsche cars have really, really good brakes. Outstanding pedal feel, best I have ever driven.

      M

    17. #17
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      Quote Originally Posted by USAZR1
      When Guido Frensmayer owned the company,they offered Brembo kits for A-bodies. I bought a Brembo kit for my 90 ZR-1 Corvette from Movit-DE and Guido tried to sell me a kit for my El Camino.
      He no longer owns the company,however.
      Hi, as webmaster of the MOV' IT site I read this and would like to correct:

      Guido my son is still the one and only owner of the MOV' IT Company ...
      Where did You get this information?

      regards ...
      dietmar

    18. #18
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      Come on Tyler!!!
      Give us the car porn!!!!!!!
      David Sloan

      If you’re suggesting sending men with weapons of war to take my weapons of war,then I’m fairly certain that’s what’s called an act of war… and the definition of tyranny.which coincidentally is the reason for the second amendment to begin with!


      https://www.pro-touring.com/showthre...ght=fun+camaro

      https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/...lcamino-build!

    19. #19
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      This is a general question; has any one been able to take advantage of these huge rear brakes? 4.6 inches of piston area? How does all the force get put down on the road? I've got a buddy that races vintage T/A and he's dithering the heck out of his little 4 pots to get decent balance w/ hoosier slicks.

      As I'm currently researching realistic braking options for my 67RS, I'd be interested to hear some driving impressions and/or 60-0 distances that these big brakes are getting.

      Any input is appriciated.
      Tyler- spy photos look hot.

      J

    20. #20
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      Sometimes people have the wrong idea about 4 and 6 piston calipers. It's not the number of pistons, but the total area that determines clamping force. There are single piston floating calipers that have more clamping force (all else being equal) than a 4 piston Wilwood Dynalite. There are however other factors that make the Wilwoods better for some applications.

      Ideally, rear brakes should have a piston area between 50% and 75% the size of the front piston area. And even when you're approaching 75% usually a proportioning valve is required to prevent the rears from locking up.

      Anything more is just overkill. There just isn't enough traction back there under braking.

      Sure looks nice though...

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