Project Bad Penny - more changes because done is boring

[Steve1968LS2]

Hmm.. might be good to pick this up for the control arms.. better than the rubber and WAY cheaper than the sperical. So long as they aren't noisy and squeeky..

http://www.pfadtracing.com/catalog/p...products_id/43

[rat_rod_russell]

Hmm.. might be good to pick this up for the control arms.. better than the rubber and WAY cheaper than the sperical. So long as they aren't noisy and squeeky..

http://www.pfadtracing.com/catalog/p...products_id/43

Just call PFADT and ask Robin (Aaron's wife) to sell you just the front spherical bearings. There both ridiculously nice and will bend over backwards for you at the drop of a hat.

Check this out, Aaron's New Z06 Corvette rear suspension driving with a camera mounted under the car. The amount of deflection on those rubbers is stupid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkrH4...e=channel_page

With your numbers so well worked out this would just make your calculations more lethal knowing that nothing is moving too much more than when it was sitting on the alignment rack.




-Russell

[Ron S]

I've got to commend you Steve.You are doing what most guys never do,getting the bugs out,and trying get to the cars full potential.So many guys build nice cars,but very few take the time to fine tune them,and make it into a force to be reckoned with on the track.Penny has been a fun one to watch be built,crashed and built again,faster,stronger{its the 6 million dollar Camaro}LOL.Probably feels that way to you. Any idea what the cost on the uprights will be? Ron

[craigs73]

since yours is "done" and your bored with it you can bring your self and your check book over here to my place and help me out

[Bow Tie 67]

Oh you guys with the corvette stuff suck!!

Cool beans Steve, I give up already. Just dont forget the most important nut, YOU the driver.

[LMDGUY]

SWEET! Bad Penny 3.0 ??

[Steve1968LS2]

SWEET! Bad Penny 3.0 ??

Nah, it would take another major deal (accident, rebuild) to jump a whole number.. this is just fine tuning.. so 2.2 is more appropriate. lol

[68/CamaroFL]

Steve,
Those billet C5 uprights are Awesome!
the upgrades never stop do they its never ending

Steve did you receive my e-mail?

[Steve1968LS2]

Steve,
Those billet C5 uprights are Awesome!
the upgrades never stop do they its never ending

Steve did you receive my e-mail?

Yea, just been swamped. Thanks for the info and we will get you in the magazine asap.

[Payton King]

a month or so ago on the spherical bushings. He has sets just for the front as some people just want the rear set for drags I guess. I think you can get the front set for about $1000. I know they are suppose to let you run a lot less camber as there is no flex in the bushing and no binding...so your front suspension works way better. The draw back is vibration and noise in the car. I do not know about yours, but mine vibrates and is noisy anyway...mounted on solid subframe bushings, weld in connectors. Been kicking this around for a while. I wish you would do it and tell me how it is, so I do not have to be the tester. I also thought about getting another set of upper and lower control arms and put those bushings in them. When it is time for track day or auto cross just switch them in. No need to re-align is you mark where you need to set the eccentrics or use their camber plates.

Seperate note...are you running a power steering cooler?

[Steve1968LS2]

a month or so ago on the spherical bushings. He has sets just for the front as some people just want the rear set for drags I guess. I think you can get the front set for about $1000. I know they are suppose to let you run a lot less camber as there is no flex in the bushing and no binding...so your front suspension works way better. The draw back is vibration and noise in the car. I do not know about yours, but mine vibrates and is noisy anyway...mounted on solid subframe bushings, weld in connectors. Been kicking this around for a while. I wish you would do it and tell me how it is, so I do not have to be the tester. I also thought about getting another set of upper and lower control arms and put those bushings in them. When it is time for track day or auto cross just switch them in. No need to re-align is you mark where you need to set the eccentrics or use their camber plates.

Seperate note...are you running a power steering cooler?

Yea, I might give them a shot. Certainly interesting. I wonder how much more "noise" there is?

No PS cooler. I have a pump from Turn One and it's supposed to run a lot cooler than stock. No real problems so far.

[CarlC]

After a bad experience with polyurethane, I'll never use them again.

You want those spherical bushings. You NEED those spherical bushings!

Think small PS cooler.....

[rat_rod_russell]

After a bad experience with polyurethane, I'll never use them again.

You want those spherical bushings. You NEED those spherical bushings!

Think small PS cooler.....

Do what they did on the first batch of C4 corvettes for coolers. go off the low pressure side of hte rack and add in an aluminum loop for the fluid to travel through before it goes back to the pump.

-R^3

[Payton King]

sphericals on Corvettes. They were able to run .5 degrees less static camber with the polys and another .5 degrees with the sphericals, so that is 1 full degree less with them over the rubber bushings you have now. Better tire wear and better braking straight line with more tire contact patch. You also have no toe change from the bushings flexing, so pretty much run it at zero.

Same people said there is more noise and vibration with them, but you have to remember they are putting these on Corvettes and doing the rears as well. Last Corvette I rode in felt like a Caddy, so something noticable in that car probably would not be noticed in mine or yours. You have to be getting vibration from your 3 link with the heim joints, solid mount steering with no rag joint, solid sub frame bushing...I mean most of the rubber has been taken out of your car. The front bushings are all that is left...not sure how much vibration would come through the steering wheel.

[Paul_J]

I guess change is cool and I can understand wanting to fix the lower control arm angle but I would be careful. There is some strange parallel universe thing going on around your car that alters the laws of physics and even with the control arm angle you still beat the pants off the competition! I would be careful messing with that kind of MoJo!

[Steve1968LS2]

I guess change is cool and I can understand wanting to fix the lower control arm angle but I would be careful. There is some strange parallel universe thing going on around your car that alters the laws of physics and even with the control arm angle you still beat the pants off the competition! I would be careful messing with that kind of MoJo!

Yea, I will fix all of the problems and screw the car up. lol

The main upside to the car is that it just hooks to the road it maintains a nearly full contact patch all the time. Even the roll is hardly an issue, it just looks bad. But, all cars can benefit from a good sorting out. After noodling around under the car today I'm pretty confident that it can be a lot faster.

To be sure though I bought an extra extra year of "good mojo" from the Hatian witch doctor.

After a bad experience with polyurethane, I'll never use them again.

You want those spherical bushings. You NEED those spherical bushings!

Think small PS cooler.....

I'm falling for the sphericals.. I think it's love... lol

So far my Turn One pump hasn't needed a cooler.. time will tell..

[Steve1968LS2]

Well, Penny is now safely up in the Pozzi's shop for a little TLC.

First off, Dave has a killer shop which sure makes it easy to carry out a vision for a part.

And it's Camaro heaven in the place. Here is Penny in her new temp home.

[1971CHEVELLE]

Well, Penny is now safely up in the Pozzi's shop for a little TLC.

First off, Dave has a killer shop which sure makes it easy to carry out a vision for a part.

And it's Camaro heaven in the place. Here is Penny in her new temp home.

Wow awesomr car

[Steve1968LS2]

The first item taken off the list was the oil breather system. Dave's skills and tons of equipment let us make my idea work.

We welded a baffle into the Katech valve cover and then turnd down a part we had on the lathe to accept an AN fitting (it's 10-AN in the photo, will be 8-AN). We then cut down a breather tank to just the right size to package in front of the head. An 8-AN bung was welded in place. The tank was then welded to a head plate I had laying around. The whole tank assembly will be powdered in fine-texture-black like my closeout. I also have a cool idea to customize the breather.

When done it will be a very compact and hopefully good looking breather tank and my oil spewing days will be over.

Next up, sway bars and spindles...

[Twentyover]

Man, looks the Pozzi barn is where old Camaros go to die.

Good thing I believe in rein-CAR-nation or I'd be a' cryin.