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    1. #1
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      JIm bij all means draw it hhahahhh



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      http://www.fsip.com/riderite/products/lrinfo.shtml .....this is what i frinking ment isend it ?? about raising the frond end ..

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      Quote Originally Posted by Roadrage David View Post
      JIm bij all means draw it hhahahhh
      Go to the link below and look at the strait inline clamp or the u-clamp and you will get the basic idea from that I am certain.

      http://www.destacoclampstore.com/manual_clamps.htm

      You can also imagine a clevis on a cam to go with the action of the u-clamp.

      I am having trouble loading pics into this place right now and I read that Larry is working on that.

      I still keep wondering about the alignment changes ? Unless you have 0 bumpsteer and the camber gain/caster situation worked out to work to your advantage ride height changes really seem to me to be something are a compromising situation. Somebody tell me if I'm right or wrong?

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      JIM im not 100% sure that i get what you meen, but looking at that straight inline clamp i think i do .
      As for alignmend changes in higher mode i dont think that will be a issue, as i only need the 2 inch raising of the car when entering the area where i live in at walking speed to clear the speed bumbs and when i rol on and off the ferry ramps and some places off the highway. so there will be no fast driving in lift mode so to speek.

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      If you think air ride is expensive, Google "roberuta cup", I think it's what you're looking for. Adjustable ride height without worrying about when your air springs will dump for good.

      Can't be too hard to fab up by someone with a big enough lathe.

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      the roberuta cup thing looks interesting. Good find Ron!

      So it's just an "aircup" atop a normal coilover. Let the air out, and it's just a coilover setup. Neat.

      Tony Langlois
      1966 Corvair Monza

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      My toughts wasend so bad huh!!!.
      its probely very ecspensif. but i prefer that over air bag suspention.
      Ron can you be more specific about what you mean

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      Looking at the Roboeruta cup it makes me wonder what a guy could do with a small porta power 2" puck or a spreader like setup? it would be the same thing as the air but hydraulic.

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      Jim, I had thought of something similar to your idea before. But rather than pivoting vertically, it was a horizontal adjustment. Similar to a coil-over adjustment, but much coarser and having lugs in a helical groove. Hydraulic would be messy and complex. I think the "cup" idea is the best way to go.

      Boyd's "Cadzilla" build from many years ago had electronic ride height adjusters. These were the days before air ride became practical for the aftermarket. They were linear actuators and I believe they mentioned the units were originally for actuating aircraft flaps. How it all connected I can't remember but it was all laid out in the issue that showed the build. All I can find on the internet now are just pictures of the car. Maybe someone here has a back issue. I might have one in the storage shed.

      My driveway is steep and requires ramps every time I get the car in/out, so I've thought about this a lot. $2k for air ride just to get out of my driveway isn't justifiable at the moment, and hasn't been the 10 years we've lived here. Right now it's wood ramps and air shocks, although the switch from 50-series 15s to 35-series 18s has negated the need for the air shocks so I can put some real shocks back in.

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      This is getting good and very creative for all of us.

      Another idea would be to use a ball and cup with a screw similar to that of what you see on a c-clamp. They could be controlled by a dc motor. This again could get bulky with a motor but a manual crank would make it somewhat tidy.

      One thing is certain, having a lowered car for the street can get to be a pain and to overcome and offset the abuse and cost that road and parking lot damage can do to the car and your wallet really starts to justify doing something no matter what it is.

      Another way of raise and lifting is to use the camlike effects that is utilized with the camber adjustment on the lower struts on a Vette.

      I had the idea for a long time and have seen it done recently and that is to have a front spoiler mounted on a hinged spring setup that allowes it to go back or forward when it encounters an object. Also having it made out of stiff but flexible rubbber material doesn't hurt the concept either.

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      What about the coil over shocks that have an adjusting nut that can be rotated for higher or lower ride height with a spanner wrench. A lot of the import tuner guys have them, I dont see why some cant be found for David's firebird. Of course I havent looked either.

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      Tom the ride hight adjustment must be done by a flip of a swith. manual ore bij hand is not a option and takes to mutch time.

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      Roadrage dave TRUST this,,, ONCE YOU GO air ride YOU WILL NEVER GO BACK! I have had air ride on my 78 C10 for over 4 yrs and LOVE it.
      You will never find a better balance of ride comfort AND handling EVER.
      Maybe some people can post up some links of autocross cars with Air Ride Technologies products. Doesnt Bret have some videos on www.ridetech.com?
      Honestly you would love the versatility of Air Ride over old school suspension.

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