Enter your username:
Do you want to login or register?
  • Forgot your password?

    Login / Register




    Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 1 2
    Results 21 to 28 of 28

    Thread: Caster / Camber

    1. #21
      Join Date
      Nov 2002
      Location
      state of confusion
      Posts
      1,499
      Country Flag: United States
      In virtually all cases, changing camber will also change your toe. Depending on whether it's an upper arm adjustment or a lower, for a rear steer car more negative camber will toe the wheels in or out, respectively.




      Norm
      '08 GT coupe, 5M, suspension unstockish (the occasional track toy)
      '19 WRX, Turbo-H4/6M (the family sedan . . . seriously)
      Gone but not forgotten dep't:
      '01 Maxima 20AE 5M, '10 LGT 6M, '95 626, V6/5M; '79 Malibu, V8/4M-5M; '87 Maxima, V6/5M; '72 Pinto, I4/4M; '64 Dodge V8/3A


    2. #22
      Join Date
      Oct 2006
      Location
      Pittsburgh Pa.
      Posts
      650
      Country Flag: United States
      delete

    3. #23
      Join Date
      Nov 2002
      Location
      state of confusion
      Posts
      1,499
      Country Flag: United States
      Quote Originally Posted by pitts64 View Post
      I have no way of checking caster..
      Sure you do.

      In fact, your observation of "the right wheel has too much positive camber when turned fully to the right" is at the heart of the method (IOW, you should EXPECT to see this).

      Steer the wheels 20° to the right and measure right side camber. Write this number down including its sign.
      Steer the wheels to 20° left and do the same thing. It usually will not be the same angle.
      RF caster will be 1.5 times the algebraic difference in the camber with the wheels steered right minus the camber with the wheels steered left.

      Now steer the wheels 20° to the left and measure left side side camber. Write this number down including its sign.
      Steer the wheels to 20° right and do the same thing. It usually will not be the same angle.
      LF caster will be 1.5 times the algebraic difference in the camber with the wheels steered left minus the camber with the wheels steered right.


      Picky, but due to Ackermann correction when you steer (say) the right side wheel 20° the left wheel steers a slightly different angle. So if you're being a little fussy you do the two sides independently of each other.


      Norm
      '08 GT coupe, 5M, suspension unstockish (the occasional track toy)
      '19 WRX, Turbo-H4/6M (the family sedan . . . seriously)
      Gone but not forgotten dep't:
      '01 Maxima 20AE 5M, '10 LGT 6M, '95 626, V6/5M; '79 Malibu, V8/4M-5M; '87 Maxima, V6/5M; '72 Pinto, I4/4M; '64 Dodge V8/3A

    4. #24
      Join Date
      Oct 2006
      Location
      Pittsburgh Pa.
      Posts
      650
      Country Flag: United States
      delete

    5. #25
      Join Date
      Nov 2002
      Location
      state of confusion
      Posts
      1,499
      Country Flag: United States
      You need to know how many degrees the front wheels are being steered, as that determines the factor that you multiply the camber difference by. I suggested 20° and a 1.5 factor because that seems to be what most of the commercially available caster-camber gauges are based upon. You can use other angles if you know what the factor changes to. But you need to know the angle in order to get the factor.

      Roughly,

      [Factor] = 1/( 2 x sin([WheelSteerAngle]) )


      Norm
      '08 GT coupe, 5M, suspension unstockish (the occasional track toy)
      '19 WRX, Turbo-H4/6M (the family sedan . . . seriously)
      Gone but not forgotten dep't:
      '01 Maxima 20AE 5M, '10 LGT 6M, '95 626, V6/5M; '79 Malibu, V8/4M-5M; '87 Maxima, V6/5M; '72 Pinto, I4/4M; '64 Dodge V8/3A

    6. #26
      Join Date
      Oct 2006
      Location
      Pittsburgh Pa.
      Posts
      650
      Country Flag: United States
      delete

    7. #27
      Join Date
      Feb 2009
      Location
      Lakewood, Wa
      Posts
      36
      Country Flag: United States
      Quote Originally Posted by pitts64 View Post
      If I add the same number of shims on both front and rear bolts will I only change camber?
      Yes...

    8. #28
      Join Date
      Oct 2006
      Location
      Pittsburgh Pa.
      Posts
      650
      Country Flag: United States
      btt

    Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 1 2



    Advertise on Pro-Touring.com