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    1. #1
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      Fittings came from Tallon Hydraulics. Tons of other places make them (Aeroquip, Russell, etc), but Tallon one of the few companies who makes a -6 fitting for the return line. I found Tallon has the best package price overall. Search on Ebay for hydroboost fitting. Note that for the high pressure supply to the rack, you will need to use a Ford Teflon washer for it to seal (assuming you are starting with a Mustang Hydroboost).

      Only thing I would suggest before ordering is checking the thread on your return line. We ordered 2 sets only to find that one of our Hydraboost units had left hand thread on the return for some reason, when the other had right hand thread.

      Craig
      1968 Torino GT 4.6L S/C T56 IRS x2
      www.twintorino.com


    2. #2
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      Thanks a bunch for the info!

      Love the twins, great work.

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      Hey Craig, Do you know how much difference there is between where the old towers were and the new towers are? I am contemplating the same thing only using t-bird parts as I have them available.

      Thanks
      George

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      Hey Craig, Do you know how much difference there is between where the old towers were and where the new towers are? I am contemplating the same thing only using t-bird parts as I have them available.

      Thanks
      George

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      Quote Originally Posted by geomerc View Post
      Hey Craig, Do you know how much difference there is between where the old towers were and where the new towers are? I am contemplating the same thing only using t-bird parts as I have them available.

      Thanks
      George
      We were not able to hit our caster camber targets with the stock shock towers, plus the height of the towers did not woork with the travel of the struts we are using. For car #2, we may just cut the tops off the towers and make up our own to suit.. as this will save a lot of fabrication time.

      Depends on what your goals are for the car. Just be careful with the T-bird stuff (depends what year), as performance parts are harder to find and are more expensive than their Mustang counterparts.
      Craig
      1968 Torino GT 4.6L S/C T56 IRS x2
      www.twintorino.com

    6. #6
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      Been working a lot on the car lately.. mostly in the form of welding, so there is not as much to see as of late. Finished the balance of the welding on the subframe connectors in the rear and moved onto the rear suspension and wheel tubs. Should have that done in the next couple of weeks.

      Finally gave the exhaust some attention. Decided to just run an "off the shelf" 2003/2004 Cobra system, and will add length where necessary, and modify the outlets so you can't see them. Found a used 2004 Cobra cat-back stainless Magnaflow system with only 1600 miles on it for only $200 shipped, and it even came with an extra set of flowmasters. Not sure why it was so cheap, but I didn't ask questions there. Have the forwards x-pipe section on it's way, so we may have an exhaust system in the car soon enough.


      Craig
      1968 Torino GT 4.6L S/C T56 IRS x2
      www.twintorino.com

    7. #7
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      Since we plan on having the car up and running in the next month.. time to take care of the smaller things. Worked on getting the parts together for the remote battery setup. We were going to make our own battery mount, but for the time it takes, we decided to just go with a DSE mount for a 34/78 optima. To connect the dots, we are using 2 gauge Quickcar cable and side mount location on the battery.



      Driver's side floors have been welded and smoothed out. Pass side is close behind and just need to be ground down smooth. Sure is nice to be able to do this with the car sideways on the rotisserie. Nearly done everything under the car now. Also in the process of of putting the rear seat support back in. It is hard to see in the picture, but we added a recessed area in the seat supports right beside the frame connectors where the brake/fuel lines will clip into on each side.


      Craig
      1968 Torino GT 4.6L S/C T56 IRS x2
      www.twintorino.com

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      This is a very cool build.Can't wait to see more.Scott M.

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      I need more pics so I can figure out where that last one is!
      Adam
      1985 S10 - LT1 + T56
      1964 Chevy II 4-Door - LS1 + T56

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      Quote Originally Posted by HectorM52 View Post
      I need more pics so I can figure out where that last one is!
      Looks like the bottom of the passenger front seat pan. Can see a good shot from post #294.

      It's looking good!

      Robert

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      Yeah.. pictures now tend to defy gravity with the rotisserie on the scene. Since it is finally nice out, will have the roll the car outside and attack it with the SLR and post up some higher quality pics.

      Moving right along, got the Magnaflow offroad X-pipe yesterday. Looks great and saves a ton of time trying to piece together straight sections and bends. As soon as the car comes off the rotisserie, the powertrain will go back in and exhaust will go on. Also got some straight 2.5" SS pipe to make the Magnaflow system work since the Torino is longer than a Mustang.

      Moved onto the e-brake system. Went back and forth on whether to go on the floor in the pedal area, or in the console area. Since the car is clearly not going the stock route, function wins. Since we are not running consoles in the cars, and want a nice area for the dead pedal to go, it makes the most sense beside the driver. Besides, it makes e-brake drifting much easier . Cables are aftermarket pieces for a 2004 Mustang with IRS.

      We now have June in our sights for a cruise around the block..


      Craig
      1968 Torino GT 4.6L S/C T56 IRS x2
      www.twintorino.com

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      Quote Originally Posted by SVTforme View Post
      Moved onto the e-brake system. Went back and forth on whether to go on the floor in the pedal area, or in the console area. Since the car is clearly not going the stock route, function wins. Since we are not running consoles in the cars, and want a nice area for the dead pedal to go, it makes the most sense beside the driver. Besides, it makes e-brake drifting much easier . Cables are aftermarket pieces for a 2004 Mustang with IRS.



      Making progress!

      Just so I'm clear - is that ebrake handle setup also out of a 2004 Mustang?
      chunger

      '68 Ranchero 500
      '70 Cougar XR-7 Convertible
      '98 Mustang GT Convertible

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      Sorry - forgot to mention that. It is from a 2001 Mustang GT. I am hoping all we have to do it lengthen the single cable coming off the handle to adapt to the Torino. The two cables that go to the brake calipers connect directly to the end of the single cable which makes things nice and simple.
      Craig
      1968 Torino GT 4.6L S/C T56 IRS x2
      www.twintorino.com

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      Looking great as always. Did you order the speedway stuff from them direct or get it up here? Looks ideal for me.

      Thanks,

      Wes

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      Craig, looks awesome, as usual! On the ABS - are you using the system out of the donor Mustang? Not sure if you say this months issue of Hot Rod - they had a article on retrofitting ABS to a '69 Camaro - and one point they made was that the donor vehicle should be very similar to the what you are retrofitting it to - so the ABS computer understands the vehicle dynamics.

      Just curious as I think of Torinos as being quite a bit different than 2004 Cobra's, but perhaps not all that different?
      chunger

      '68 Ranchero 500
      '70 Cougar XR-7 Convertible
      '98 Mustang GT Convertible

    16. #16
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      Nice work!
      Do you have any info on the weld-in parts for the gas tank?

      Robert

    17. #17
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      just finished reading all 17 pages... Incredible build you've got going on!

    18. #18
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      Quote Originally Posted by Wesley J View Post
      Looking great as always. Did you order the speedway stuff from them direct or get it up here? Looks ideal for me.

      Thanks,

      Wes
      I got them from hrpworld.com. Took a couple of weeks, but in the end they were the same price as buying direct, and shipping was only $10. Took a bit longer as we opted for a 36" long bar. The standard size is typically 37.5". Bushings are from Amazon.com.

      Quote Originally Posted by chunger View Post
      Craig, looks awesome, as usual! On the ABS - are you using the system out of the donor Mustang? Not sure if you say this months issue of Hot Rod - they had a article on retrofitting ABS to a '69 Camaro - and one point they made was that the donor vehicle should be very similar to the what you are retrofitting it to - so the ABS computer understands the vehicle dynamics.

      Just curious as I think of Torinos as being quite a bit different than 2004 Cobra's, but perhaps not all that different?
      Torino and Mustang are more similar than I would have expected. Wheelbase on the Torino is larger, but the overall curb weight is going to be close. Our weight bias is slightly more forward than a Mustang. Not sure how this will behave, but we sure are going to find out.

      In the end we are using the following parts from a 2004 Mustang Cobra:
      - Hydroboost and master cylinder (only Cobra models use M12 and M10 ports in master)
      - Front and rear wheel speed sensors and pickups
      - ABS distribution block and control module

      There is one ABS unit for a Cobra (same for coupe and convertible), and one for a Mustang GT. They are easy to differentiate, as there is a bif sticker on them to indicate usage.

      Since the ABS unit it part of the overall Mustang wiring system, I can talk to it via the CAN network through the OBDII port to make sure everything checks out.

      Quote Originally Posted by RS_Customs View Post
      Nice work!
      Do you have any info on the weld-in parts for the gas tank?

      Robert
      Pump reservior is a custom made part based on the parts found in a 2003/2004 Mustang Cobra specific tank for the dual pump setup. The flange on the top of the tank is from a 99-04 Mustang that we had cut out of a tank at a Mustang only scrap yard.

      Quote Originally Posted by AdvAutoBob View Post
      just finished reading all 17 pages... Incredible build you've got going on!
      Thanks! For the time it took to document everything - I could have had the car done by now .
      Craig
      1968 Torino GT 4.6L S/C T56 IRS x2
      www.twintorino.com

    19. #19
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      Wrapped up the lines this evening, and got the proportioning valve system in place. Took a while to figure out where to put everything, but very happy with things in the end.

      The trick here was making all the intricate sections using aluminum 3/16 tube first. Aluminum is 100x easier to bend up than stainless. You can also remove the bend for the most part with ease in aluminum.. stainless not so much.

      Craig
      1968 Torino GT 4.6L S/C T56 IRS x2
      www.twintorino.com

    20. #20
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      Moving right along on progress.. crossing fingers on being able to make Woodward this year under it's own power. Fuel system is basically done - just need to get Oetiker clamps on the lines and that will be it. Ended up using new Mustang fuel filter and bracket and retained the quick connect fittings. Makes parts cheaper and more readily available too. Everything else attaches using Ford quick disconnects which we added to the hard lines.

      Moving onto cooling system, we have all of the hoses, adapters and fittings. Using the Ford racing oil filter adapter, it makes setting up the coolant hoses and oil cooler system a breeze.

      Next step is to get a quick coat of paint on the underbody to keep rust away, and then assemble everything underneath the car and drop it back on the ground again. I'll have to break out the SLR this week for a chance and get some shots of the underbody outside with paint.

      Once we shake down the car, we will send it in for media blasting and then final paint inside and out. That likely won't be until next year at this rate..




      Craig
      1968 Torino GT 4.6L S/C T56 IRS x2
      www.twintorino.com

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