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06-27-2008 #1
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Lower ball joint ? Afco vs. Moog
I am looking to lower my '86 442 in front after an engine swap. I would like about an inch or so. I considered drop spindles but thought if I could install the tall LBJs and eliminate some bump-steer, better yet. My problem is I am unsure which ball joint is correct. I've researched Afco, Howe and Moog and the base diameter for the tall ones from Afco and Moog have a smaller base dia. than the original for my car. Am I missing something? Part numbers would help alot.
The Howe seems to be the best but are pricey for me. It's not likely that I ever track this car, I just need the front a little lower. It already has Eibach springs all around.
Thanks in advance.
Framedoctor a.k.a. David
1986 Olds 442 grey/silver 350 TPI/200R4 , AFI wiring, SC+C stage 2+ front susp, boxed rear control arms,Eibach springs/ Edelbrock shocks, Coys 17x8f 17x9r, custom 2 1/2 exhaust w/side exit.
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06-27-2008 #2
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FWIW, I have the Howe ones in my car, and am very impressed with the construction. I don't track my car either, but I do drive it "spiritedly!"
Steve Ragusa - North Jersey
2006 Infiniti G35x
Former Build - 1988 Monte Carlo SS - ZZ4-cammed TPI 355, F-body serpentine conversion, World-Class 5-speed, Eibachs/Bilsteins, Howe tall LBJs, 34mm hollow front swaybar, 3/4" straight rear bar, 17" Coys C55s, 12" front discs, and more. Sold on 2/28/11.
06-30-2008 #3
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I got some LBJs, I got a pair of the Moogs locally from one of our suppliers to the bodyshop where I work. They are the K6117, I think they are for a 2WD truck? The threads on this look to be a larger dia. Am I supposed to drill the top of the taper to fit?
Framedoctor a.k.a. David
1986 Olds 442 grey/silver 350 TPI/200R4 , AFI wiring, SC+C stage 2+ front susp, boxed rear control arms,Eibach springs/ Edelbrock shocks, Coys 17x8f 17x9r, custom 2 1/2 exhaust w/side exit.
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The silent replies to my question inspired me to try the search button again. I think I found all the answers to my questions on SC&C's FAQs page. It felt like it was written directly to me.
I'll have that humble pie now please.Framedoctor a.k.a. David
1986 Olds 442 grey/silver 350 TPI/200R4 , AFI wiring, SC+C stage 2+ front susp, boxed rear control arms,Eibach springs/ Edelbrock shocks, Coys 17x8f 17x9r, custom 2 1/2 exhaust w/side exit.
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How about a link to it?
I've seen the Howe units, but not the AFCO.
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The Afcos are circle track parts available at Summit, Jegs, or any other circle track catalog. They've been discussed on here but no one had ever listed part #s. I had even searched Afco and Moog by part # and came up empty handed. I've enlisted the help of a racer local to me, he's going to help me out.
Can anyone tell me if the Howe units are a direct replacement for my car, or would I still need to enlarge the taper on the bottom of the spindle?Framedoctor a.k.a. David
1986 Olds 442 grey/silver 350 TPI/200R4 , AFI wiring, SC+C stage 2+ front susp, boxed rear control arms,Eibach springs/ Edelbrock shocks, Coys 17x8f 17x9r, custom 2 1/2 exhaust w/side exit.
07-03-2008 #7
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The Howe pieces I got from SC&C were a direct bolt-on for my car, no mods to the taper of the spindle required.
Steve Ragusa - North Jersey
2006 Infiniti G35x
Former Build - 1988 Monte Carlo SS - ZZ4-cammed TPI 355, F-body serpentine conversion, World-Class 5-speed, Eibachs/Bilsteins, Howe tall LBJs, 34mm hollow front swaybar, 3/4" straight rear bar, 17" Coys C55s, 12" front discs, and more. Sold on 2/28/11.
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