ATS needs your help! Market research within...

[TitoJones]

I need some help from all of our members here that own 67-81 F bodies, 64-72 A bodies and 68-74 X body cars.

I've spent the last few days going over 6700+ emails trying to make a new FAQ page, and I'd like some feedback on topics to put on our website.



So, ask away! I want questions about font and rear suspensions, picking spring rates, LSX install questions, T56 questions, etc. If you have asked a shop the question, put it here so I can make a new data base.
What do you want to know?

Tyler

[John510]

What kind of fuel rail do I need for my 2000 LS1 motor for going in a 68 camaro?

How do I attach my 2000 camaro front disc brakes to my car?

[Nine Ball]

What is pro-touring?

[Yelcamino]

What is pro-touring?

And what direction do you see it going in the next 20 years?

[1969CamaroRS]

Maybe a comparison of different suspension types front and rear, benefits vs cost etc. You could maybe even give a couple examples of lists of parts (say Stage 1 - Street, Stage 2 Street/Strip etc) to help people pickout packages vs their budget.

I know the upper/lower control arm questions must be pretty common, as well as what works with your AFX spindle and what doesn't (Guldstrand, DSE control arms etc).

Maybe something on how to pick a spring rate depending on intended use, engine size and suspension components etc would be killer.

[Chad-1stGen]

Is there a list of (non ultra premium) wheels that are known to work with ATS spindles and C5/C6 brakes?

[sik68]

As an engineer, I'm a bit obsessed with quantifying performance. Then again, I suppose every car guy is is into numbers to some extent. What would really blow my mind as a consumer would be documentation of performance gains that can be realized with the parts and systems you offer. I realize this is a difficult process...the logistics of carrying out a battery of tests can be pretty daunting. BUT, I know for a fact that car enthusiasts like myself trust a supplier that stands behind their product.

The common response to this "well there are so many variables that affect performance, the data is basically useless and doesn't apply to the consumer's buildup anyways."

My rebuttal is: so what? The customer realizes that the tests weren't carried out to show how their own car would perform, but rather to show the relative improvement that the company's products may offer. If a brand new car, Woosh, can get around Gogo Raceway in 1:35, it means nothing by itself. However, if you found out that a 2008 z06 can get around that track in 1:40, then the Woosh is a pretty impressive car!

I know too, that some products are harder to quantify as "better." For example, the ATS 670 steering box. We all know that this box is "better" than the original sloppy steering boxes of yore. But how do you quantify that? Well, just write a side by side comparison between the 670 box and inferior steering boxes. Even simple math like "the 670 box has 200% less on-center play than this Saginaw box out of a Camaro" goes a loooong way.

Well, it would be awesome if performance were more than just a "hey this product is awesome" type of deal.

BTW, Tyler, I have a 1968 Camaro with a bunch of Global West stuff I bought from ATS...I could be quite easily motivated to become your official performance tester.

[Takid455]

why do 1975-1981 firebirds/ trans am's get shafted and 1st gen camaros get all the goodies and parts?

[Steve1968LS2]

Ok... anything special if you want to install a 5.3 truck engine (with GM harness computer) with a TKO-500/600?

What if you want to do it with a T56?

[JEFFTATE]

Why aren't there more IRS kits for musclecars ?
Don't they work better than any solid axle rear suspension ?

And how is the 50/50 Camaro going ?

[BonzoHansen]

why do 1975-1981 firebirds/ trans am's get shafted and 1st gen camaros get all the goodies and parts?

Add 75-81 Camaros too.

[Nine Ball]

pros and cons for rack and pinion vs OEM style steering setups.

database for wheel/tire fitments on various cars, with stock tubs/fenders

mini-tub how-to, and the hidden costs related

designing an EFI fuel system

[Rybar]

#1 FAQ on your list: What's the deal with 50-50. Sorry to break your balls Tyler, I have always been wondering if it will ever get done.

#2 Some kind of comparison of stock subs with aftermarket mods vs aftermarket subframes.

#3 Comparing a DSE Q-Link with a Air/Gbar rear suspension.

[CRCRFT78]

Improving suspensions on the G-body with the use of your poducts. I always hear about bumpsteer but what else should the consumer consider when putting a suspension together. How about street or street/strip applications? Brake packages etc. etc.

[Chad-1stGen]

If a T56 is installed using your cross member behind a Gen 1 SBC and you later want to install an LS1 will the cross member and existing T56 have to be moved forward or backward?

[XLexusTech]

"#3 Comparing a DSE Q-Link with a Air/Gbar rear suspension."
I second that!
"#2 Some kind of comparison of stock subs with aftermarket mods vs aftermarket subframes. "
I second that too..

Here is one I would like to know. Assuming I were using the Ats tall spindles Is their a performance advantage to using coil overs other then adjustability?

[DJW32]

1. ATS motor mounts: Why would I want to flip the ATS motor mounts?
2. ATS motor mounts: What is the height difference between running the motor mounts the regular way (traditional mounting)VS. flipping the motor mounts?
3. ATS motor mounts: Do you have pictures of where ats mounts will postion the motor in other classic cars and trucks? Do you know what kind of headers and drive assy your customers used in their classic?

I will think of more...

[XLexusTech]

As an engineer, I'm a bit obsessed with quantifying performance. Then again, I suppose every car guy is is into numbers to some extent. What would really blow my mind as a consumer would be documentation of performance gains that can be realized with the parts and systems you offer. I realize this is a difficult process...the logistics of carrying out a battery of tests can be pretty daunting. BUT, I know for a fact that car enthusiasts like myself trust a supplier that stands behind their product.

The common response to this "well there are so many variables that affect performance, the data is basically useless and doesn't apply to the consumer's buildup anyways."

My rebuttal is: so what? The customer realizes that the tests weren't carried out to show how their own car would perform, but rather to show the relative improvement that the company's products may offer. If a brand new car, Woosh, can get around Gogo Raceway in 1:35, it means nothing by itself. However, if you found out that a 2008 z06 can get around that track in 1:40, then the Woosh is a pretty impressive car!

I know too, that some products are harder to quantify as "better." For example, the ATS 670 steering box. We all know that this box is "better" than the original sloppy steering boxes of yore. But how do you quantify that? Well, just write a side by side comparison between the 670 box and inferior steering boxes. Even simple math like "the 670 box has 200% less on-center play than this Saginaw box out of a Camaro" goes a loooong way.

Well, it would be awesome if performance were more than just a "hey this product is awesome" type of deal.

BTW, Tyler, I have a 1968 Camaro with a bunch of Global West stuff I bought from ATS...I could be quite easily motivated to become your official performance tester.

I couldn't agree MORE I have asked DSE and CA the same things Even had a failry large post about it got nothing useful back. The reluctance (not on Tylers part) but from the big manfacturers to provide performace Data is telling in itself.

[Chad-1stGen]

I'm seem to recall that Tyler has accumulated a fair amount of comparison test data but has withheld publicizing it to avoid vendor wars.

Tyler?

[killer69]

how big is my motor?
what is my gear ratio?


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