Introducing - Project 1/2-TRAK

[trapin]

Good progress on the project True, but what's really caught my eye is the string of Rainbow's. Did you get those fly-fishing or casting Mepps spinners? Michigan is known for it's Brook Trout and when I was younger we used to cast spinners in the smaller tributaries for them. Used to come home with strings like that. A quick field dressing and into the smoker they went.

Ahh....fond memories.

[DJW32]

Yes, I will be using the stock subframe.

You see, I firmly believe in letting other people do my R&D for me. The simple reason for this is that I really cannot afford to experiment. So for the most part, I am using what I know to work.

Thankfully, one of our own, Carl Cassanova has already sussed out the details of running a 275 on the front of a '68.

You can find all the required information on his excellent website:
http://www.geocities.com/casanoc/

The only differences in my setup will be the use of an ATS spindle and wheels/brakes. I will be duplicating his wheel dimensions and also will be using the Speed Tech upper and lower control arm. More about those later though. I don't want to get ahead of my next update.

I agree.

I wonder if this would work with the air ride stuff?

Keep the updates coming.

David

[Damn True]

Good progress on the project True, but what's really caught my eye is the string of Rainbow's. Did you get those fly-fishing or casting Mepps spinners? Michigan is known for it's Brook Trout and when I was younger we used to cast spinners in the smaller tributaries for them. Used to come home with strings like that. A quick field dressing and into the smoker they went.

Ahh....fond memories.

There are a couple of German Brown's in there as well.

1/8" split shot, #8 hook and a night-crawler combined with fishing the same stream in the sierra's since I was 5yrs old with my grandfather.

Fly fishing is an avocation practiced by people who enjoy the act of fishing more than catching and eating fish.

More often than not I mix up some flour, salt and pepper and dust the fish inside and out with that and drop them in a cast iron pan with about 2 tbsp of oil in it. Once in a while I'll bake them with some lemon, thyme, chives and a tiny bit of garlic.

[Damn True]

I agree.

I wonder if this would work with the air ride stuff?

Keep the updates coming.

David

Not sure as I am not going the air route. But I'll be speaking with Speed-Tech later this week and can fwd your question.

[Bow Tie 67]

There are a couple of German Brown's in there as well.

1/8" split shot, #8 hook and a night-crawler combined with fishing the same stream in the sierra's since I was 5yrs old with my grandfather.

Fly fishing is an avocation practiced by people who enjoy the act of fishing more than catching and eating fish.

More often than not I mix up some flour, salt and pepper and dust the fish inside and out with that and drop them in a cast iron pan with about 2 tbsp of oil in it. Once in a while I'll bake them with some lemon, thyme, chives and a tiny bit of garlic.

Thanks alot, now I'm hungry.

[DJW32]

How is your turning radius going to be effected?

[Flash68]

How is your turning radius going to be effected?

I hope to be able to report back soon on this as well as I am running the air ride upper and lower control arms on my stock sub with 275s. I am hoping the turning radius is not compromised too much!

[Damn True]

How is your turning radius going to be effected?

http://www.geocities.com/casanoc/

As stated on Carl's website it is somewhat reduced in order to prevent rubbing on the subframe, but not appreciably so.

[Damn True]

I hope to be able to report back soon on this as well as I am running the air ride upper and lower control arms on my stock sub with 275s. I am hoping the turning radius is not compromised too much!

I'd verify that with ART. One of the best features of the Speed-Tech arms (great geometry not withstanding) is the adjustable steering stop. This will allow me to slightly limit the steering angle enough to prevent rubbing.

[killer69]

Just wanted to let you know that there is no reason the air ride skw's won't work as long as the spring pockets are clearanced and there is no contact with the bag, they would probably work well with ATS's Chicane coil over conversion too. as it would allow a taller SKW and may allow you to run the bag upside down requiring less clearancing,,?????
but they will work with the lower arms. frank @ prodigy has air ride on our subframe with the camaro lower control arms.

[Damn True]

Thanks for jumping in Blake!

The stuff arrived in good order. Updates coming very soon.

In the mean-time..............

Yes Tyler, I did pull the subframe from the tub.

Pulled, sand-blasted etc etc.....

[Steve68]

Looks good D/T, post a little more on the MoMo Wheel,

[TitoJones]

Your manhood will remain intact for now.

So while you were busy ripping your pink car apart we were busy modifying your lower control arms to a double shear mount for our coil over kit.

We took your tubular control arms and setup our lower mount:



Then we ground down the powder coating off the top and bottom so that we could TIG the mounts in place:




The frame gets modified by cutting off the single shear shock mount from the upper control arm bracket, plasma cutting the spring pocket out to allow for the coil over to pass through, and then welding the new upper coil over mount itno place inside the control arm bracket. Final results look like this:



Back to the lower control arms, we TIG weld the spacer into one side of the double shear mount; the other side gets a zinc plated floater.







The lower mount is ready to be welded to the lower control arm pocket:



The arms are fully welded; TIG around the brackets, and MIG in the center to plug weld them in place. Now they go off to get re-finished.



Next we will assemble your AFX spindles using the LG Motorsports brake cooling ducts. I'll post those up when the parts arrive.

Tyler

[Damn True]

Hey Tyler, thanks for posting that stuff. If you'd sent me the photos I don't think anyone would have believed it was me making those welds.

Important feature of the Speed-Tech arms that I really want to point out [white arrow]



That bolt is the key to getting the 275x17" tire on a 9.5" rim on the front of a 1st Gen with a stock subframe. It's a steering limit adjuster and it allows you to slightly limit the steering angle such that the tire will not rub the subframe. The loss of steering angle is negligible.

Speed-Tech is the only aftermarket UCA/LCA manufacturer to offer this feature.

Strap gussets on the bushing housings are a nice addition as well. Stronger with a minimal increase in weight.

Of course, the Acetron (delerin) bushings will offer little/no deflection, exceptionally long wear, no squeaking and have a convienently mounted zerk fitting as well.

Tyler informs me that the modification shown above was significantly easier on the Speed-Tech arms than on other available products.

[nicks67camaro]

Looking great True! I'm glad I saw an in depth look at the ATS coil over kit.

[Damn True]

Thanks, stay tuned. There'll be more stuff in a few days.

The perception is that it's one thing for Tyler and his guys to install one in their shop and something else entirely for a home builder to do it.

I am doing the remainder of the install myself, with the intention of illustrating how easy it is for someone to do this install even with basic home fabrication equipment.

I only had Tyler install the LCA double shear mounts because I don't have my shocks yet and thus cannot correctly set the spacing.

I don't have a videography department (just kidding Frank) but I'll try to give you guys as much stuff as I can.

[jknight16]

Those LG spindle-mount brake ducts are some pretty trick pieces, I have a feeling you will be the one to start a trend here of using those with the AFX spindles.

[killer69]

AAAAAA HHHH what about the beautiful powdercoating???

looks like it is go time.
keep the updates comming
looks good

[Damn True]

Gotta break some eggs..........

They'll look great again before they go on the car.

[trapin]

Interesting part. Where do they draw the cool air from. Does that hose get routed to the front end or does it just need to capture air from under the car?