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    1. #21
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      there was a shop that had a vender booth at the World Drag Expo in St. Charles Il. last weekend that had a big sign that said "SPEED GLASS" so its more than likely the same thing, but id have to find out... I cant think of who it was off the top of my head but i can find out.



    2. #22
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      69 panel: look at the first post in the thread. There's a link there to this.

      Tyler: Don't forget to have Kris update your rendering and remove that chrome trim.

      jp
      Last edited by parsonsj; 02-01-2005 at 09:50 AM. Reason: Sentences end with a period.
      John Parsons

      UnRivaled Rides -- Modern upgrades for your ride.

      UnRivaled Rides recent project -- LS9-powered 69 Camaro

    3. #23
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      JP,

      Are you also gonna do your side windows or leave those with the stock glass?
      -David

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      Are you also gonna do your side windows or leave those with the stock glass?
      I asked them about side windows and they said it would be fine if the windows didn't need to roll up and down. It was an issue of attaching the window hw to the plastic as best I can tell.

      I'll have a look at it when my front and rear windows show up. But, more than likely, I'll use stock glass on the sides.

      jp
      John Parsons

      UnRivaled Rides -- Modern upgrades for your ride.

      UnRivaled Rides recent project -- LS9-powered 69 Camaro

    5. #25
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      Flush Mount windows

      While this glass would have kept me from pulling in the opening by 1/4 inch, this wouldn't have helped much on the ledge it sits on. I had to move the ledge up about 3/8 to 1/2 inch in order to get the glass flush with the body (including about 1/8 inch or so for the glue). The ledge was also not real wide, I don't know if the glass would have set on there very well. I had seen the speed glass display at a trade show before, I believe it was the Hotrod and Restoration show in Indy a few years ago. I thought it would be a good idea.

      Luckily Chevy II Only just informed me that they are now making rear glass for 62-65 sedans so I don't have to settle for trying to have the scratches polished out of mine.

      I'm planning on using S-10 rubber window trim. It glues to the edge of the glass and covers the small gap between the body and glass. It's about 1/2 inch thick. Vintage Glass sells it but you should be able to buy it by the foot from a local window installer.

    6. #26
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      Well, my new plastic windows arrived today. They are very light, and sized right. Minor trimming is all that is necessary to get a nice gap and glue it in.

      Dennis, I have some edge trim that Brian Schein found, along with some that Vintage Glass sent along with my windows. It has a u-channel for the glass and a lip to cover the gap. It should make for a nice fit.

      Raising the frame up isn't really necessary, according to a window installer Brian talked to. You can buy urethane adhesive strips in various "heights" to fill the gap.

      Anyway, I won't be installing the glass until after paint and interior, so I won't have any more to report for a few months ...

      jp
      John Parsons

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    7. #27
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      Jp does it look like real glass? or like a lexan window? Did the windows meet your standards?
      -David

    8. #28
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      Dave,
      It has a protective film on it, so I can't really say. The service over at Percy's is sure up to snuff.

      The weight, fit, and look sure seem good.

      jp
      John Parsons

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    9. #29
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      Expansion ?

      Hi John, I was thinking about the directions I have read over the years when installing window glass in homes and was always told to allow for the lexan or plastic windows to grow in size.

      It might be a good idea to measure it cold and hot to see how much you get. I sure would hate to see it buckle if it gets too big.

      If I didn't like the chrome trim so much I would do this to my car!

      Jim Nilsen

    10. #30
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      You may have seen the mouldings that replace the chrome before but on my car I went to the local glass shop and bought a bulk moulding. It is about 1/4'' wide and urethanes in with the glass. Hides edge of glass and gives that finished look to your install. People also look at the car and can not quite figure out what's up.

    11. #31
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      So where can I find the moldings that just replace the chrome...........and do you have any pics of what your car looks like with the bulk stuff......up close ones would be nice too.
      1968 Twin Turbo Camaro

    12. #32
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      Window Mouldings

      The moulding will not just replace the chrome it is only a filler. The speed glass will expand and contract so you don't want the glass to close to the body. This moulding will act as a filler it is kind of T shaped. look at 83 or 84 Camaro windshiels this is the narrow moulding that I would use, later cars had much wider. On my car I used the orig. glass and built up the pinchweld and also built in from the edges of the body. I moved the windshield up, added 1 1/2'' to the cowl and tapered that into the tops of the fender I will try to get some pics, but progrss reports are due tomarrow.

    13. #33
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      John, The Urethane doesn’t come in strips. It just comes in a chalking tube and you can make it whatever thickness you want.

      Brian

    14. #34
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      Can a well-equipped automotive glass shop handle a flushmount job or is it something for a custom body shop?

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      Clint,
      If you are set on using glass for the windshield, then you will need to employ a body shop to reduce the size of the opening to fit the factory windshield. They will need to reduce the opening by 3/4" or so for each direction, plus subtly shape the opening so the wrap of the glass matches the cowl and roof.

      jp
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    16. #36
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      Quote Originally Posted by parsonsj
      Clint,
      If you are set on using glass for the windshield, then you will need to employ a body shop to reduce the size of the opening to fit the factory windshield. They will need to reduce the opening by 3/4" or so for each direction, plus subtly shape the opening so the wrap of the glass matches the cowl and roof.

      jp

      Is yours installed yet????? I would like to see some pics
      KENNY DAVIS HOTRODS

    17. #37
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      Quote Originally Posted by parsonsj
      Clint,
      If you are set on using glass for the windshield, then you will need to employ a body shop to reduce the size of the opening to fit the factory windshield. They will need to reduce the opening by 3/4" or so for each direction, plus subtly shape the opening so the wrap of the glass matches the cowl and roof.
      jp
      John,my car is a daily driver so I would be very hesitant in using anything but a glass windshield. Reducing the size of the window openings in metal sounds time-consuming and expensive. But,what else is new?

      I met a guy at Chevellabration in Nashville last week that's building a custom 69 Elky. We're going to work together on developing a one-piece side window kit for 68-72 El Caminos. It would be easy but the windows have some curvature.

    18. #38
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      Travis,
      No ... not yet. I'm still getting color on the sheetmetal.

      jp
      John Parsons

      UnRivaled Rides -- Modern upgrades for your ride.

      UnRivaled Rides recent project -- LS9-powered 69 Camaro

    19. #39
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      Hey John, a quick off-topic here...

      Just wanted to say congrats on a sweet write-up in PHR! Looking good!
      Doug
      67 Camaro - Project: Retribution



      "Honda: The most efficient means of converting gasoline into noise without the side effect of horsepower."

    20. #40
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      Doug,
      Thanks very much! Next up is a rear suspension article. I think it's running in October.

      jp
      John Parsons

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      UnRivaled Rides recent project -- LS9-powered 69 Camaro

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