Complete welded SRG-FORCE chassis for 1st gen

[rdplyr]

What do you guys think of this company's product? http://www.streetrodgarage.com

It is a full chassis for the 1st gen camaro. Would you go with something like this for a 1st gen project?

[Project69]

Looks nice but alot of people like the morrison frame the best, schwartz also put out a sweet looking frame.

[wendell]

I'd weld a big snow mobile engine to it and drive it around my farm for a weekend.
Seriously, it's got ****ing ladder bars and a "reverse watts link" that was designed by IKEA. Mercy.

[shudog]

I've been looking at some of the exact same setups myself. I haven't found alot of support for these full frames. Most guys use modified stockers with excellent results for much less money. I don't know though.

[rdplyr]

yeah. I am not sure if this might be overkill for a street car with light track time. I am thinking maybe a front clip setup and a gbar 4 link in the rear.

[wendell]

It might be slight overkill for the snowmobile powered go kart I was planning but it's UNDERKILL for a car that you care about.

[shudog]

So everyone that's running a stock frame car on this board doesn't care about their cars? Not trying to antagonize, just trying to learn. My post count shows my level of inexperience on this board.

[wendell]

You're miss understanding me because I'm being a *****. My fault. Based on the pictures on that web site, I'm saying the stock Camaro subframe and tub is in every way imaginable, SUPERIOR. The frame in those pics would be slight OVERKILL for a go kart but probably slight UNDERKILL for a well developed lawn mower (depending on the size of the mower deck).

The PT fad is dripping with money and there is no shortage of "experts" to harvest said money.

[derekf]

Wendell, assume that I'm an idiot (because I am) and that I'm not an engineer (because I'm not) -- what's wrong with their chassis? Is it just a matter of insufficient strength?

5/16" wall tubing seems pretty beefy for the outer side bar but I'm not sure what they mean with "our exclusive inner structure supports every 10" throughout the frame rail" -- are they saying they put supports inside the boxed rails?

I'm not in the market for one of these - my car came with a boxed frame - so my question is more from an intellectual standpoint than from a comparison shopping perspective.

[wendell]

I doubt you're an idiot and I'm not a mechanical engineer eiter (chemical). That said, I am a student of the art. Out of all the goofy suspension/ frame packages out there, I'm not sure why this one got me going, it's probably not much worse than the rest. But hell, I've gone this far...

I'm sure it's plenty strong enough. I didn't even notice the 5/16" spec! Hell you could probably use it to built one of those "Mule" tractors to drive compost around the yard. I don't think it would break, but if it was used to build an actual car I don't think it would turn, stop or accellarate either. Those are all nice things for a car.

The super short ladder bar rear suspension (does that even count as suspension?) is a red flag. The promise of multiple IRS options doesn't make me feel any better. The "adjustable watts links (?)" with out an adjustable watts link is interesting. And up front you get the mustangII stuff that fell off their last 32 Ford project. Chrome it, put air bags on it, do what ever you want to it. It's not for me.

Sorry about the ranting. I should get back to the garage and work on my own set of problems instead of goofing on some one elses.

[David Pozzi]

The rear doesn't look good at all for cornering use. I don't have a problem with the Watts, but only two lift arms is strictly drag race stuff and if they don't understand that, then what else was missed? The overall fabrication looks nice, but the front crossmember area shows no concern for torsional rigidity similar or worse than a Martz sub frame. When you look down from the top and see the floor, the crossmember isn't going to resist twist.
David

I see they have other options for rear suspension, a good 4 or 3 link would be nice. Just fix the front frame.
Imagine a pair of giant hands grabbing each side of this and twisting it...

[Hot Rod]

Ran across this.

http://www.streetrodgarage.com/index...=Custom&ID=111

[buickfunnycar.com]

interesting...

[Boulder69]

Something tells me those ladder bars can't be good for cornering.....

[deuce]

pretty cool i just sent for info on that , i happen to in the market for a chassis

[Hot Rod]

Something tells me those ladder bars can't be good for cornering.....

I do not know anything about it. But, kinda looks little like Bad Penny.

[MarkM66]

I do not know anything about it. But, kinda looks little like Bad Penny.

BP uses an upper link. This car does not, like stated, more a ladder bar. Not the same at all.

[streetrodgarage]

Something tells me those ladder bars can't be good for cornering.....

Actually more on the lines of a truck arm setup. Nascar uses something like it and they seem to corner pretty good. We also offer an upper link, parallel 4 link, triangulated 4 link, c4 vette and 9" Ford IRS as well. This is just one option available. This is our prototype frame. Thanks for your comment.

[streetrodgarage]

I do not know anything about it. But, kinda looks little like Bad Penny.

BP is very nice. Nice rear setup for sure but watts links have been around a long time (actually done my first one in 1985). Thanks for your comment.

[hotrdblder]

anything with mii front susp is made for a street rod.