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    1. #1
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      tight floor pans

      I have a section on my website dealing with floor pan installation that I update from time to time as I get work done on them.

      When I update it, I will update this thread, called tight floor pans.



      Keep in mind, I am Mr. overkill, if a body shop tried to do it like I do, they would go out of business.

      It just shows another way to put floor pans in, and this is a 1969 chevelle two door hardtop.

      Anyway, just wanted to run it by you people.

      Thanks

      Rob
      "There are questions to be answered, and answers to be questioned"


      Jigs, sandblasting, shop, paintroom, rotisserie, pictures, little bit of everything.
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      Wow!
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      That was an insane amount of sheetmetal screws!
      Some times I'm fast sometimes I'm half-fast

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      Quote Originally Posted by rohrt
      That was an insane amount of sheetmetal screws!
      Your tellin me, but actually it goes pretty quick with an air ratchet.

      I wanted them tight without any hammer marks in them, and those sheet metal screws will reform those pans.

      I guess we'll have to wait until I get them done to see if it was worth it.

      I'd rather be driving screws then trying to drive home from the bar.

      Rob
      "There are questions to be answered, and answers to be questioned"


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    5. #5
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      Floorpan update, check the whats new page on my website.

      Rob
      "There are questions to be answered, and answers to be questioned"


      Jigs, sandblasting, shop, paintroom, rotisserie, pictures, little bit of everything.
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      Some really cool things on your site, thanks.
      Later - Craig

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      '70 Chevelle (in storage now, probably will never be back on its wheels again!)

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      hey that a cool little paint mixer you have. Where did you get that?
      Some times I'm fast sometimes I'm half-fast

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      Why didn't you just weld it together?
      Scot
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      Quote Originally Posted by rohrt
      hey that a cool little paint mixer you have. Where did you get that?
      I think the hardware store, but I can't remember for sure.

      Rob
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      Quote Originally Posted by Samckitt
      Why didn't you just weld it together?
      I'm a little confused on what your asking Scot?

      Rob
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      Do you sleep in the garage?
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      Nice

      I just saw your site awsome work, frame looks great!

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      Quote Originally Posted by rubadub
      I'm a little confused on what your asking Scot?

      Rob
      I didn't read all of your info about the floor, so forgive me if I am missing something. I just don'e understand why you used so many screws to hold the floor down instead of just welding it to the braces that you screwed them to. Seems to me that it would be much cleaner welded rather than screwed together.
      Scot
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      Man that is one hell of a set up! Great site and documentation!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Samckitt
      I didn't read all of your info about the floor, so forgive me if I am missing something. I just don'e understand why you used so many screws to hold the floor down instead of just welding it to the braces that you screwed them to. Seems to me that it would be much cleaner welded rather than screwed together.
      I did weld it, but the reason for the screws is to reform the pans.

      If you take a new floor pan and go to weld it down, some of the pan will lay on the support, and some of it won't.

      So in order to get the pan tight to the support you need to hammer, or heat it, or jack it into place, then when you get done you will have a crease or wrinkle in your new pans.

      These wrinkles can be pounded out pretty good, or you can get them half way decent and put a little body filler on them.

      If you don't do anything to a new pan, you will usually have some gaps between the pan and the support.

      So, by using all these sheet metal screws you are reforming the pans as you screw them down.

      After I put all the screws in all of the pans, I took the screws out.

      Pulled the pans out, ground the burrs off, set them back in on the supports and plug welded them in.

      What the screws do, is reshape the floor pan to fit the supports.

      the supports are a thicker metal then the floor pan, so as you tighten the screws the thinner floor pan bends to fit the contour of the floor support.

      When you go to put the pans back in after you have allready screwed them down, the pans will set right in there really nice, because the metal has been restretched.

      Hope this answers your question.

      Rob
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      Quote Originally Posted by Part Time
      Do you sleep in the garage?
      No, but you never know, if the wife gets the ears back, that could happen.

      Rob
      "There are questions to be answered, and answers to be questioned"


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    17. #17
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      Rob, yes it makes sense now, & I totally understand. Please forgive my ignorance & lack of patience to read everythig, (if you had that posted somewhere).

      Thanks
      Scot
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      No problem Scot, sometimes I get in a hurry and don't explain things as good as I can, plus I do the two fingered typing, and the fingers don't keep up with what I want to say. And then I'm 66 years old, so I try to blame some of it on old age.

      Rob
      "There are questions to be answered, and answers to be questioned"


      Jigs, sandblasting, shop, paintroom, rotisserie, pictures, little bit of everything.
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    19. #19
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      Floorpan update, check the whats new page on my website.

      Rob
      "There are questions to be answered, and answers to be questioned"


      Jigs, sandblasting, shop, paintroom, rotisserie, pictures, little bit of everything.
      http://www.1969supersport.com

    20. #20
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      Floorpan update, check the whats new page on my website. Its kind of short tonight. But I needed to add some shifter hump measurements to my site, so rather then have the bride set up for just the shift hump section, she did both of them at the same time.

      I know the overkill, but this gap was bothering me because the other supports didn't have it. I guess the good thing about it is, it took very little heat, although it looks like a lot, to pound that down. It took longer to wheel the torches over then it did to heat it and pound them down, one support, four gaps, anyway, I just wanted to explain.

      Rob
      "There are questions to be answered, and answers to be questioned"


      Jigs, sandblasting, shop, paintroom, rotisserie, pictures, little bit of everything.
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