Indy Fans? Choke!! Pats Number One

[rocketman]

oh boy, here we go again:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/nfl...?urn=nfl,52422

patriots complaining about the noise again.

I've been to the dome probably 6-8 times, and never for a game nearly this big. It is absolutely deafining in there, absolutely no need to pipe in noise.

hope they get to visit us again for the AFC game.

Yeah whole team full of spoiled over paid candyasses, it's to loud we could hear, hell Arrowhead is that loud and it's not a dome.

The overrated Pat's, it's a matter of time somebody will knock all these prettyboys off.

[hdesign]

Apparently they're not overpaid. They keep performing to their level of pay by winning. Yes, there's a couple big names and contracts but it's mostly regular guys coming up big and executing because of quality leadership, great play calls, teamwork, smart football and discipline. Brady was willing to take a pay cut to get some WR's this year, sounds like real selfishness huh?

Candyasses? I've seen Brady take a few shots in the past few years that most LB's would think twice about getting up from. Can't say that about this year though. The O-line has been giving him a ton of time so he hasn't spent much time on the ground so far.

Overrated? All but one ESPN commentator picked the Colts over the Pats.

I heard about the complaints with regards to the noise....they still won. Though if they lost, they would be the last team to use it as an excuse.

Yes, I'm sure this won't last forever but it sounds like the only reason you can give for hating them so much is because they win.

[Dagger]

Yeah whole team full of spoiled over paid candyasses, it's to loud we could hear, hell Arrowhead is that loud and it's not a dome.

The overrated Pat's, it's a matter of time somebody will knock all these prettyboys off.

Candyasses? If there is a candyass on the field, it's Peyton Manning. Knock him down a few times during the game and he can't hit the broad side of a barn much less one of his receivers.

[69Pony]

So Dagger running up the score late in the 4th quarter or passing on 4th and 2 up by 7 TDs is class and sportmanship? The pats are going to reap what they sow soon enough. Hopefully, it will manifest itself as a blown ACL in Brady's knee. Prior to this year I really had no issues with Brady but his recent actions speak volumes......

And HDesign - I don't understand how anyone CAN'T harbor animosity towards the team unless you are a Pats homer. The team does NOT play clean - watch what they get away with on a weekly basis. Also, funny how the Pats apologists so cavalierly dismiss the cheating by stating "everyone is doing it". If that's true then how come Belichick is the only one who has been caught? Funny, but if the Jets coaching staff had been caught doing what BeliCHEAT was caught doing the Pats homers would be boo hooing in their Wheaties.

But hey it's all perspectives and opinions... And yes they are the de facto best team so far THIS year just don't annoint them the 8th wonders of the world just yet.

[Dagger]

So Dagger running up the score late in the 4th quarter or passing on 4th and 2 up by 7 TDs is class and sportmanship? The pats are going to reap what they sow soon enough. Hopefully, it will manifest itself as a blown ACL in Brady's knee.

I'm sorry, I thought this was professional football. My bad. The same wussies complaining about running up the score (the Redskins defense for example) are the same bozos doing a celebration dance after making a hard tackle after the running back gains a first down.

[hdesign]

And HDesign - I don't understand how anyone CAN'T harbor animosity towards the team unless you are a Pats homer. The team does NOT play clean - watch what they get away with on a weekly basis. Also, funny how the Pats apologists so cavalierly dismiss the cheating by stating "everyone is doing it". If that's true then how come Belichick is the only one who has been caught? Funny, but if the Jets coaching staff had been caught doing what BeliCHEAT was caught doing the Pats homers would be boo hooing in their Wheaties.

Evidently, the Pat's can still win without cheating...check the scores of every game since "Video-gate". They'd be stupid to continue doing it after that.

BTW...what about Eric Mangini cheating after outting the Pats? A little hypocritical don't you think.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...o&confirm=true

Yeah, no one else cheats in pro sports except the Pats. No one else holds but the Pats, no one else commits pass interference but the Pats, you're absolutely right. Please.

Ever notice that when a pitcher and catcher are on the mound talking they cover their mouths or football coaches cover theirs with play cards? That's because it's the job of the other team to try and figure out the calls to get an edge. Is it ethical? No

I'm not saying Belichick shouldn't have gotten penalized for doing something against the rules. As long as they crack down on everyone doing it, not just the dog on top of the pile. That was pure BS.

I never heard the Pats whining about the awful calls in the AFC championship last year. Who knows what would have happened. Congrats to the Colts for last year, they deserved it. I hope for a rematch this year.


A little NFL history regarding classless teams running up the score:


Subject: Classless Patriots/Dolphins


Picked this up off of the Miami Herald



Were the 1972 Miami Dolphins Classless as the Patriots have been charged this year?

Many have said that the Patriots ran up the score on Miami two weeks ago, and again this past week against the Redskins. Many media groups have openly criticized Coach B for his offensive insensitivity this year. Still others have said that the Patriots will not go undefeated and match the 1972 Dolphins.

Does anyone remember that in 1972, the then undefeated Miami Dolphins beat the Patriots 52-0 in Miami on 11-12-72 in front of a home town crowd of 78,148 on their way to their 14-0 perfect season? In that same year, the New England Patriots went 3-11 and finished dead last. It makes one wonder why a classy team like the Dolphins would feel the need to run the score up on the Patriots.... humm, does that sound familiar to anyone this year?

Here is a game log tidbit from the 1972 Undefeated Miami Dolphins game against the Pats that day - Miami, the "class' of the NFL during their undefeated 1972 season.

With the score 38-0 over the Patriots in the 4th quarter, Miami continued to go long down field. Here are the final two 4th qtr scores by Miami over the Patriots (who went 3-11 that year).

MIA - TD, Briscoe 51 pass (Yepremian kick)
MIA - TD, Mandich 39 pass (Yepremian kick

Correct me if I am wrong, but Tom Brady QB sneaks it in from the 2 yard line and he is a bum, and the FINS throw two very long 4th Qtr passes to run up the score to its final of 52-0 and the Fins are forever crowned the best team ever and hailed as conquering heroes? And if you think that Miami did not have the horses to just run the ball in the 4th Quarter, they had Larry Csonka and Jim Kick, two of the most devastating runners in the game, but they chose to throw for quick scores.

Oh, I get it --- they were not the evil empire that the New England Patriots are so how they played the game is deemed great and how the Pats play is now deemed "classless" Well, that certainly clears it up for me.

The Pats finished 3-11 in 1972 and finished dead last. They were no threat to Miami in this game which came late in the schedule. Miami was playing at home and was cheered lustily on every score.

It seems that Coach B has a thing for NFL history and a long memory. I wonder if any Miami fans believe the Pats are classless for their 2007 scoring accomplishments, or perhaps just another great juggernaut team on their way to NFL history?

[69Pony]

Hey not making excuses for the Skins or any other team beaten by the Pats - (the Cleveland game comes to mind also - up very late in the game and instead of taking a knee to END THE GAME they pass for a TD) I'm simply staying on topic and arguing that the Pats are not the classy professional team you THINK they are. Simply put - they got caught with their hand in the cookie jar cheating. And now their petty coach is trying to prove something by running up the score. It IS totally classless to pass on 4th and 2 late in the 4th quarter up by 6 TD's. Not sure why you can't understand that.... Same principle holds true in so many things - you don't kick a guy in the pearls AFTER you have beaten him and he's laying on the ground. If you do it basically proves you are not a class act, don't understand the concept of sportmanship and are basically an ASS. Such a simple concept yet it is lost on so many people....

[Dagger]

Hey not making excuses for the Skins or any other team beaten by the Pats - (the Cleveland game comes to mind also - up very late in the game and instead of taking a knee to END THE GAME they pass for a TD) I'm simply staying on topic and arguing that the Pats are not the classy professional team you THINK they are. Simply put - they got caught with their hand in the cookie jar cheating. And now their petty coach is trying to prove something by running up the score. It IS totally classless to pass on 4th and 2 late in the 4th quarter up by 6 TD's. Not sure why you can't understand that.... Same principle holds true in so many things - you don't kick a guy in the pearls AFTER you have beaten him and he's laying on the ground. If you do it basically proves you are not a class act, don't understand the concept of sportmanship and are basically an ASS. Such a simple concept yet it is lost on so many people....

69Pony,
I don't disagree with your arguement, I was referring to you suggesting a player should be intentionally injured for any reason. I guess the concept of class and sportsmanship has been lost by at least one more person..........you.

[class67]

PATRIOTS!

[LateNight72]

69Pony,
I don't disagree with your arguement, I was referring to you suggesting a player should be intentionally injured for any reason. I guess the concept of class and sportsmanship has been lost by at least one more person..........you.

When you play football, your INTENT is to HURT the opposing player. EVERY coach, from HS to College to The NFL teaches this. Why on earth would it be a phyiscal contact sport if the intent was not to destroy the opposing player?

[hdesign]

When you play football, your INTENT is to HURT the opposing player. EVERY coach, from HS to College to The NFL teaches this. Why on earth would it be a phyiscal contact sport if the intent was not to destroy the opposing player?

I was never taught that in HS or College ball. Yes, it's a contact sport, but only a real POS would teach his players to play like that.

[69Pony]

I was never taught that in HS or College ball. Yes, it's a contact sport, but only a real POS would teach his players to play like that.

Sorry - not to call you out but either you didn't play college ball or you played for Skirts U. Every team I ever played on taught you to hit hard and drop the guy. It might not be right (and I would agree that it isn't) but nevertheless, that is what you are taught.

Now I was not taught to hit low, go for a knee or head hunt but if you did knock someone out of the game it was rewarded when you made it back to your bench. Tell me there isn't some "teaching" there when a coach tells you "hell of a play son, now get out there and do it again"?

I think you are getting your memories confused with when you used to say "2, 4, 6, 8 who do we appreciate". Yeah we don't do that in college......:bsjerk:

[LateNight72]

Attempt #2

The players are a class act, the organization is a class act and they legitimately outplay the other teams. If you're complaining about running up the score.....go look at the Dolphins win over the Pats in 1972 when the Pats finished the season in dead last.

Explain the Seau saga to Dolphins fans, then; if all players are class acts...

I'm not a Fin fan, BTW.

[69Pony]

OK so the '72 Fins AND the '07 Pats are classless. Works for me....

What doesn't work for me is the guy who's doing 75 in a 55 mph zone complaining about the guy passing him doing 80. Face it they both are wrong. Just as you are wrong for eluding that it's OK for the Pats to be classless and cheat just because others have.... If the Pats were such a great organization and can beat anyone they why do they feel the need to cheat? Why, if they are to be annointed the team to beat all teams, do they need to create an unfair advantage against the lowly Jets?

And yes Brady is a bum for sneaking it in from the 2 just as the Fins were for going long. You argument and posts prove the point.... You think BeliCHEAT has a long memory. I think BeliCHEAT could care less what happened 35 years ago, simply put he had his pee pee slapped in front of the media and he's out to make a statement. That statement is classless and short sided and will get his star QB hurt.

Funny how homers for certain teams only see the "good" their respective team does - it certainly clouds the mind.

[hdesign]

OK so the '72 Fins AND the '07 Pats are classless. Works for me....

What doesn't work for me is the guy who's doing 75 in a 55 mph zone complaining about the guy passing him doing 80. Face it they both are wrong. Just as you are wrong for eluding that it's OK for the Pats to be classless and cheat just because others have.... If the Pats were such a great organization and can beat anyone they why do they feel the need to cheat? Why, if they are to be annointed the team to beat all teams, do they need to create an unfair advantage against the lowly Jets?

And yes Brady is a bum for sneaking it in from the 2 just as the Fins were for going long. You argument and posts prove the point.... You think BeliCHEAT has a long memory. I think BeliCHEAT could care less what happened 35 years ago, simply put he had his pee pee slapped in front of the media and he's out to make a statement. That statement is classless and short sided and will get his star QB hurt.

The Pats got caught, paid the fine and continued to stomp the hell out of every team since without cheating. They put Matt friggin Castle in 2 weeks ago and they were still able to get a QB sneak for a TD. Sound like no matter what they do they're still undeserving by your logic. Seems like the only thing that would make you happy is if all the starters got benched or injured so that other teams would have a chance. Oh yeah, that'll make for exciting Sundays!

Sorry the Balimore Felons aren't dominating the AFC this year, maybe they should knock over a few liquor stores, get busted for posession or get indicted for manslaughter or wife-beating again to get back on ESPN's radar.

[BA.]

Sorry the Balimore Felons aren't dominating the AFC this year, maybe they should knock over a few liquor stores, get busted for posession or get indicted for manslaughter or wife-beating again to get back on ESPN's radar.

Yo! As a Bengals Fan and local (Dayton) guy, I resent that!
Don't we have more felon's than the Ravens?!?!?? :Popcorn:

......we get Henry back soon!

[StRacerDuke]

1+ Up for Boston

[steemin]

rrrrrrgggg rrrrrggg rrrrrggggg bark bark bark Colts suck Pats suck

I love these theads.
I am a Colts fan and still don't understand how wound up people get over a football game?

Now if we are talking Ford vs. Chevy...
rrrrrggg rrrrggg rrrrggg bark bark bark
Fords suck Chevys suck

[Dagger]

I've played a few contact sports in my life, I've never been coached to purposely blow an opposing player's knee as 69Pony suggests.

[69Pony]

Dagger - I guess I put it too strongly. I certainly don't want Brady hurt even though that is what I posted. What I should have said is Brady will get hurt soon if BeliCHEAT continues to run up the score and subject teams to humilating defeats. Does BeliCHEAT really expect other teams especially those in the same division that they have to play twice won't want some payback? Think a Buffalo, Miami or Jets player isn't thinking about giving Brady's leg a "extra" twist?

I played ball for 3 years in College (nothing too special) and believe me in every game there was a player or two that was id'd as someone to stick it to if you could. I was part of that on both sides of the fence. Face it, nobody likes to be showed up but to get your face rubbed in it really pisses some people off.'

But really Dagger - at what level did you play? In high school and college you were taught to drop the guy and if he didn't get up - good. I certainly was not coached to break a guys leg on purpose but I was told to make sure that guy didn't score again. Read between the lines if you must but the end result is "get that guy".