C5 Floating Caliper or Wilwood Fixed Caliper

[AButler]

EDIT:
New question does anyone regret going with the C5 set up over a fixed piston caliper one?
Also Wilwood Tandem master cylinder. (Like the one in Bad Penny) is it a good choice for the C5 caliper set up front and back? Or would a dual master cylinder set up be better......

Thanks,


I figure this has probably been gone over a few hurdred times but looked and couldn't find all the info i was looking for.



So I am going to upgrade my brakes on the 2nd gen camaro. I looked at KORE3 at all the c5 set ups and it seems to almost cost the same as a Fixed caliper set up from wilwood. I will be using manual brakes and was wondering your guys opinion on wether the c5 set up has a good firm pedal and wether the wilwood set ups are that much better. The car will be a street driven car mainly with maybe some track time. I just want a feel the is almost like that of a street bike. What i mean is how you can feel what is going on with the brakes with the lever and just how it doesn't have a ton of slop in it. So any opinions are welcomed and also any opinions on the wilwood tandem master cylinder.

Thanks,
Aaron

[Taylor1969]

I figure this has probably been gone over a few hurdred times but looked and couldn't find all the info i was looking for.

So I am going to upgrade my brakes on the 2nd gen camaro. I looked at KORE3 at all the c5 set ups and it seems to almost cost the same as a Fixed caliper set up from wilwood. I will be using manual brakes and was wondering your guys opinion on wether the c5 set up has a good firm pedal and wether the wilwood set ups are that much better. The car will be a street driven car mainly with maybe some track time. I just want a feel the is almost like that of a street bike. What i mean is how you can feel what is going on with the brakes with the lever and just how it doesn't have a ton of slop in it. So any opinions are welcomed and also any opinions on the wilwood tandem master cylinder.

Thanks,
Aaron

It isn't only the caliper. You are going to have to figure in Hydraulics as well (hard lines, soft lines, master, and proportioning). I went with the C5 setup and will be going with an LS1 master, stainless 3/16 lines, braided soft lines, a propblock and hydroboost.

[Hammered]

I think the C5 rotors are much thicker than the Wilwoods, another consideration.

[AButler]

Ok so i understand that there are other factors but with floating calipers there is some flex and the fact of that the pistons are on one side of the caliper. So will you feel the flex and can you tell the difference is my main concern. The c5 stuff seems like a more economical swap as you can purchase any parts needed at your local parts store so broken parts are a quick fix. don't know just wanted to pick your guys brains as this site seems to have some smart people with hands on knowledge. as i said any opinions welcome.

Thanks,

[Apogee]

I've got more hands on knowledge with respect to the C5/C6 stuff, so I can say that if rigidity is your primary concern, the C6 calipers are about 25% more rigid and fit inside the same envelope as a C5 since PBR essentially just added material between the ribs of a C5 caliper.

Piston knock-back is more of an issue with rigidly mounted calipers for obvious reasons. Disc thickness varies depending on the Wilwood caliper/rotor combo, so it's not fair to say that the C5/C6 setups are thicker at 32mm without specifying the Wilwood kit they're being compared with. Still tough to beat the value of $50/pair discs that you can track-n-toss when they're done.

There are a lot of satisfied Wilwood customers...maybe a few will chime in with their experiences and why they chose what they did.

[aggressive male]

I'm no expert but I know it's a trade off, the more pistons you have in each caliper the better but the more maintenance trouble. How many pistons do the wilwood calipers have? How many do the C5 have?

[dipren443]

I'm no expert but I know it's a trade off, the more pistons you have in each caliper the better but the more maintenance trouble. How many pistons do the wilwood calipers have? How many do the C5 have?

C5 calipers have dual 40mm pistons.

The wilwood calipers can vary both in quantity and size of pistons. Their common ones are 4 and 6 piston.

[AButler]

So i have tried some of the calculators that are listed in other posts. But i am not 100% sure on my work so what size master should i use for C5 brakes front and rear. I was also looking at the wilwood pedal with the dual master cylinders. If i go that route what are the 2 sizes i should use or any experiences that might help me avoid picking the wrong parts.

[SDMAN]

Im using the C5 front suspension on my new frame. This afternoon, I have an appt to meet with a guy at Baer brakes, in Phoenix. We will be looking at their 6 piston mono block calipers (for both front and rear) with 14" discs systems. The rear kit uses an internal drum parking brake. Im about 90% sure that I will be going with those kits for my new project. If I do, Ill post some pics.