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[hiwayman]

hi all iv had the car on th road the past 6months why would this chassis come with 2degrees of caster the handling is terrible lots of bump steer and th car wonders all over the road may be mustang II should stay under old hotrods

[TBART70]

call them, you need more caster and then check the actual bumsteer and correct it from there.

[hiwayman]

thanks for the reply there seems no way to adjust the caster i have checked th bump at 2in travel it was deflecting over 3/4of a in not flash no wonder john parsons built his own

[ProTouring442]

There has to be a way to adjust caster... how about a few pics of the top and bottom suspension, and we'll see what we can help you figure out.

Shiny Side Up!
Bill

[hotrdblder]

caster aint gonna fix the bump steer, and 2 degrees is not bad 3-5 is normal and all the does is help keep the wheel going straight at speed

[customcam]

Hey Hiway how are ya bro
were have u been man
Evan

[hiwayman]

hey there evan yea man it been along time i tell iv missed my drug(pro touring.com)had to makesome cut backs iv had th car driving since the start of the year and been to a few events just trying to sort the handling car wonders allover th road with the steering going very light (manual steer) hotrdbler iv got th mustang II suspension i can print photos nextweek thanks for th replys

[Norm Peterson]

caster aint gonna fix the bump steer, and 2 degrees is not bad 3-5 is normal and all the does is help keep the wheel going straight at speed

While tinkering with the caster may not completely fix a bumpsteer issue, it does have an effect. As you adjust caster, the steering arms either rise or fall depending on whether you increase or decrease +caster (and on whether the car has front or rear steer).

Norm

[silver69camaro]

Darrin,
It sounds as if your IFS is not aligned correctly. The caster is indeed adjustable and may need to be changed, as the alignment that we adjust the suspension to is only to safely get the car rolling to the alignment shop.

I am confused about your bumpsteer measurements. Our 57" track width IFS has about .002" of toe out under 2" bump. At any rate, please give us a call so we can help you out!

[kamaroman68]

Darrin I really hate to see you having so many troubles. what the he!! happened to that frame? I really hope somewhere down the road i don't have the same problems. by the time i get to that stage art morrison and company will have probably retired. Chris

[6'9"Witha69]

If I am not mistaken, this is the 2nd thread in as many days where I have seen issues posted by you and the Morrison guys step up to the plate. I think we both know who needs to be called. Giv ethe guys who made it first crack at figuring out the issues.

[hiwayman]

hey matt ,chris and 6-9 yip tried calling art and the lads but had to leave message but no reply any how im not blameing anyone just trying to fix th issuse hey norm i like wot your saying and if theres away of putting more caster into the car im all for it ,at speed 100k the steering goes very light and wonders al over the road thanks

[hiwayman]

hey matt how is the caster adjusted?

[hotrdblder]

if it has 2 bolt crossshaft you put shims behind the front uca mounting bolt to push the front of the uca arm out which in turn pushes the knuckle back towards rear of car.

[Norm Peterson]

In that situation, hopefully there are some shims behind the rear UCA bolt that you can remove - otherwise you will push camber toward or into positive. Best to take some measurements to see just what you do have.


Norm

[hiwayman]

top arms have like rod end adjustment so theres in out movement morrison has drawing on his site i just cant see how you would adjust caster sorry cant shoot pics at th moment also we tried adjusting front joint out but nah it got ugly hope theres a solution just cant drive at any speed cool for cruzing

[Norm Peterson]

Caster adjustments are made by shortening one of the rod ends and lengthening the other. That rotates the UCA in plan view more or less about the middle of the cross shaft. The UBJ then moves in the fore/aft direction, which changes the spindle (knuckle) angle in side view, which is caster.

I have a DIY alignment write-up that might help you get this straightened out. PM me with your e-mail if you're interested.


Norm

[silver69camaro]

Caster adjustments are made by shortening one of the rod ends and lengthening the other. That rotates the UCA in plan view more or less about the middle of the cross shaft. The UBJ then moves in the fore/aft direction, which changes the spindle (knuckle) angle in side view, which is caster.

Yep.

Like I said, please call us.

[CraigMorrison]

Darrin- You need to give us a call. If you have had the car out on the road for 6 months and have been having problems, why is the first time we are hearing about it? We have helped you out a lot along the way, and you will get more help.

This isn't the first Max-G chassis that we have done, and there is a straight forward solution to solve your alignment issues. To simply say that MII should stay under hotrods isn't the answer. Calling us and having us help you with your setup would be a lot better.

We look forward to hearing from you.