Front Clip Question: Need Your Help

[Young Gun]

So I'm building a pro touring 1970 nova, my front clip appears as though it was nocked and its hosed.... with that said I need to purchase a new front clip soon and I come to yall for answers. Im not sure which clip to go with, I have seen multiple clips available and I dont know what to do, If anybody could help steer me in the right direction I would really appreciate it, I would like to know what makes one clip better than another and anything of this sort. The clips I have found are the Art Morrison, DSE, Martz, and Chris Alston front clips, if there are other/ better clips out there please let me know... I really appreciate it guys!

[hotrdblder]

the dse and ame are the best , the others are to be questioned and i would go with a modded stock frame before alston or any others, other then dse/ame frame, 21st is nice too

[streetk14]

the dse and ame are the best , the others are to be questioned and i would go with a modded stock frame before alston or any others, other then dse/ame frame, 21st is nice too

I agree, AME, DSE or 21st century are the only ones I would consider for my cars.

I have a Wayne Due C5 subframe in my '67, but he has closed up shop and is no longer making frames. Art Morrison has pretty much taken over production of Wayne's stuff, but his team of engineers have worked out the kinks he had in the design from what I understand.

Good luck, and I don't think you can go wrong with any of the 3 companies listed above.

Andy

[Young Gun]

can somebody post the site for 21st century? and out of curiousity why wouldnt you consider the others? are there known problems?

[eville]

can somebody post the site for 21st century?

http://www.21stcenturystreetmachines.com/
google is my friend.

[Young Gun]

i could not find it on google...but thanks loads

[hotrdblder]

Most Of Them Are Street Rod Style Clips Used To Go On And Off A Trailer, Using Mustang Ii Uca,lca's, Which Are Good For A Street Rod And Junk For A Serious Driver

[OneslowZ28]

Depending on your budget a modded stock sub may be a good idea. There have been huge advancements lately. Check out Global West to get an idea.

[novanutcase]

Depending on your budget a modded stock sub may be a good idea. There have been huge advancements lately. Check out Global West to get an idea.

Problem is his OEM front clip is wasted so he HAS to replace it!

John

[6'9"Witha69]

Get a sub from any 67-69 Camaro or 68-74 Nova and go from there. Stock clips are way underrated and the support in the aftermarket is there to really make them work great.

[MonzaRacer]

Go for the Martz, awesome looking stuff I got to see one the other day very sweet piece.

[TBART70]

do a lot of research before you buy, ask a lot of questions, get all ther numbers. Ask the people in the know what numbers to look for, and what qualities make a good chassis.

[jmartz]

Thank you MonzaRacer. We have had thousands of satisfied customers. Again, you can check our our customer page for some positive feedback, and I do believe Richard Kirkendall (you can see his car featured in the magazine links on our website) is also a member of this forum, he has had excellent feedback on our Camaro subframe.

Year One has been using our frames on quite a few of their projects with excellent results. They used our front suspension system on Paul Walker's LS1 67 Nova and we have had rave reviews from it. It was featured in Chevy Rumble's November 2004 issue.

Our subframes are not Mustang II but are of our own design crafted by Gary through his years of racing and street rodding.

Though Gary is now retired, my brother, Andy, and I are now continuing the family business.

[Jayco_Automotive]

It isn't a mustang II suspension, it is a true Martz Design took him a while to figure out that lil bit of info also. Check out their web at www.martzchassis.com to see some of the reviews and rides they have built.

Benefits:

GM Disc Brakes
Tubular Control Arms with Urethane Bushings
Eccentric Bolts for Quick Caster and Camber Adjustments
Standard or Drop Height Spindles
Adjustable Height: Standard height to 3” lower
4 ½ or 4 ¾ Bolt Pattern
Front Mounted Rack & Pinion Steering: Power or Manual
Core Support mounts & bumper mounts Installed
Mounts installed in frame to accept short GM engine mounts
Mount installed for use of stock rear crossmember (crossmember not supplied)
Reduces Front Weight by Nearly 200 Lb.
air ride Airbags also available

[jmartz]

Yes, we use a professional front suspension geometry software system for our front suspensions.

[TBART70]

jmartz I'm in no way direspecting you or your family, I was not happy and asked for help making a change. I did not call up and make claims I knew more than your shop, nor did I call up and complain to you about it.
My problem is I don't like when someone with limited knowlegde comes on here and bashes my ability, of course I'm not talking about you personally.

[Piet]

Back to the original question PLEASE.

I think you have some real good options here.
Get the documentation on AME, DSE, 21st century, and Martz. Figure out which one is best for you. Each will have thier own strengths and weaknesses.

Now that you have some good options... it's researching time.

[jmartz]

Piet you are correct. It would be an awfully boring world if there were no choices. Every car owner has their own ideas and desires as to how they want their car to handle, and I'll not claim that we have the "perfect" suspension system for every buyer. That would just be ridiculous. That is like saying one brand of sneakers should fit every foot (I'm a girl, gimme a break on the analogy, ok?) Anyhow, do your research. See which one is right for you.

If you have any questions, email me and I'll answer what I can about our products, as will the other companies. And even though I AM a girl, I do profess to know more than the average female, as my Dad founded Martz Chassis a year before I was born and I grew up in it. I can handle any pricing questions and SOME tech, and what I don't know I try my hardest to find out.

That said, as Piet stated,
Now that you have some good options... it's researching time.

[Young Gun]

I completely agree with all of yall about needing to do the resesearch, and I have, but I dont really understand what makes one of these chassis better than another, so with that said, I am asking for your help and I guess somewhat for your imput on what I should choose.

[Piet]

I looked at your progress thread... nice plans.

I would need two questions answered.

1) Realistically, what are you going to do with the car?

A) Cruiser
B) Cruiser with the possibility of the occasional event
C) Hard Core Auto Cross - Lateral G racer

2) Realistically, what is your budget?

A) Under $2,000
B) $2,000 to $4,000
C) $4,000 to $6,000
D) for everything else... there's VISA