Fatmat installation is done

[72Z/28]

well, after almost 12 manhours, I managed to install FAtMAT sound deadner.

I did the interior minus the roof and the doors. It sticks well. I doubled the sound deadner on the transmission tunnel and the firewall area.

Putting jute pads as heat insulation will be next..

[awr68]

Looks real good! You will be VERY happy you did the fender wells as it alone lessens road noise a lot.

[72Z/28]

Looks real good! You will be VERY happy you did the fender wells as it alone lessens road noise a lot.

Thanks awr68, the fenderwell were the hardest to do, but I am glad I am done with the noise issue...

[hectore3]

Looks like a TV dinner in there! LOL! You did a great job! I am doing my car also but in dynamat. I wish I would have known about FatMat earlier. I understand that it is essentially the same as Dynamat but better priced.

[72Z/28]

Looks like a TV dinner in there! LOL! You did a great job! I am doing my car also but in dynamat. I wish I would have known about FatMat earlier. I understand that it is essentially the same as Dynamat but better priced.

Yeah I got 100 SQFt for $89+$39 shipping. I got it on ebay from AUTO-SOUND-SUPPLY. Great customer service and super fast shipping as well..

Dynamat is way more expensive. Maybe it is better than FATMAT, oh well...

Make sure you post some pics when you are done hectore3

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

looks great im in that process myself!

where do you pick up jute padding?

[PT Goat]

I'm not trying to crap on your parade, but I installed Fatmat in my GTO about 2 years ago. The adhesive is gone and it's litterally falling down from under the dash. I've had to use spray adhesive to try to keep it in place. I spent about $220 on four rolls, because I planned on doing my daily driver and the GTO, and I recently threw out the two unused rolls because there was no stick at all left to it. Just trying to warn future purchasers that cheaper isn't always better.

[72Z/28]

looks great im in that process myself!

where do you pick up jute padding?

Upholstery shops in the country where I live sell those jute pads..

[72Z/28]

I'm not trying to crap on your parade, but I installed Fatmat in my GTO about 2 years ago. The adhesive is gone and it's litterally falling down from under the dash. I've had to use spray adhesive to try to keep it in place. I spent about $220 on four rolls, because I planned on doing my daily driver and the GTO, and I recently threw out the two unused rolls because there was no stick at all left to it. Just trying to warn future purchasers that cheaper isn't always better.

So you are saying that the adhesive is gone because of the heat produced by the engine and exhaust pipes..

I don't know how Dynamat will be like after two years from installation??

[69TAPoser]

So you are saying that the adhesive is gone because of the heat produced by the engine and exhaust pipes..

I don't know how Dynamat will be like after two years from installation??

I just finished my Dynamat install and the reason I sent the extra $$ on Dynmat are because it doesn't need to be doubled-up like the fatmat and the longetivity/adhesive factor is greater. There is a link to a test that compares them all including adhesion if you do a search.

Let me tell you, the Dynamat stuff REALLY sticks well and appears toto have permanently attach itself to the car over time. The stuff is REALLY tough (It doesn't come off of your clothes either). I found the bulk pack on EBay for $130 shipped. I bought 2 boxes for my entire car (roof, doors, interior).

I can't comment on fatmat, I have never used it, but I do think that the DYnamat is worth the extra $$ based on my experience with it vs what I have read about others.

Phil

[dipren443]

While a lesser known product, this stuff is also really great. Check the VB-2 and VB-2HD.

http://www.cascadeaudio.com/damper.html

[TonyL]

I just ordered my fatmat today from Auto-sound-supply. how long did shipping take exactly?

I can't wait to get started on putting mine in.

[72Z/28]

I just ordered my fatmat today from Auto-sound-supply. how long did shipping take exactly?

I can't wait to get started on putting mine in.

Honestly, the order was processed on the same day, and the shipping took 3 to 4 days only.

The customer service is great (auto sound supply) and you get an instant email reply.

As for the adhesion, it really sticks good, and it does not come off easily either. I hope it stays the same. LOL

[vintageracer]

I have called those "BOZOS" at Fatmat 4 times looking for information. Each time the same lady gives the same crap answer on the answering machine that they will call you back. No call back with 4 messages left. My calls were not one right after another but 1 call a week for the last 4 weeks!

To me, customer service is ALWAYS a direct reflection upon your product and its quality. No return call, no purchase your product!

Manufacturers AND resellers need to realize that in today's world the telephone AND email are your lifeline to your customers. Sure, it's a pain in the ass AND time consuming to respond to your current or potential customers. BOO HOO!

If you, as a manufacturer OR reseller are NOT willing (I know you are able) to respond quickly to your customer inquiries, DO NOT PUT ANY CONTACT INFORMATION IN YOUR LITERATURE OR ON YOUR WEBSITE so you do NOT waste potential or current customer's time.

Yes, I know that I probably could have contacted one of their dealers and received a proper answer to my question however it is NOT the dealers responsibility to be crutch for poor customer service from the manufacturer.

Manufacturer's and reseller's need to take this rant to heart as I know I am NOT the only customer with this pissy attitude about poor customer response and support. You do NOT want to be in the position of Global West which has great products and a horrible reputation for customer service. Their POOR customer response to their customers and high prices has given many a young/old entreprenuer the desire to get into the business and make similiar/same/better products. As a result, we now have MANY options for suspension parts.

I find it FUNNY that Fatmat is the "Johnny Come Lately" copy cat to the sound deadening market and THEY are the one's with the POOR customer service. Folks, that's not a good business plan!!!!

You may get my money once but never twice!!!!! Apparently there are a lot of new business's looking for "One Time" customers.

Given the posts on this thread I now have my question answered and I am VERY GLAD I did NOT order/purchase the Fatmat product.

All's well that ends well for me with this Fatmat saga!

[PT Goat]

So you are saying that the adhesive is gone because of the heat produced by the engine and exhaust pipes..

The adhesive is gone completely on two unused rolls after about 2 years on the shelf. That wouldn't have anything to do with heat. Anywhere there was heat in the car (like the tranny tunnel) the foil tends to peel away and the sound deadener itself is melted to the floor. And that's with less than 50 miles on the car since installation. Up under the dash, where heat isn't much of a factor, it's falling down. And I haven't even driven the car since doing up under the dash. I started with just the floor and doors and ended up doing the firewall and under the dash later when the car came completely apart.

[evan]

If anybody is looking for a reasonably priced alternative, Raammat is a very good product. That combined with the Ensolite that they sell makes for a very pleasant cabin. I used it on my c10 and I've got some on order for the Malibu.
http://www.raamaudio.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi

[racereno]

http://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com/

[evan]

http://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com/

Exactly!

[69TAPoser]

There must be more to the story regarding adhesion. I have no reason to defend Dynamat, nor am I trying to justify my purchase of it, but it is listed way down on the list and my experience with it thus far has been quite the opposite regarding adhesion. I did find that over time the bond has seemed to increase and this test is only after an hour after application (my garage has also gone through several hot and cold cycles over this time due to my heating of the garage and it being cold at night). The test is good for initial adhesion but maybe not a really good test to show the longevity of the product? The Dynamat Xtreme that I installed over a month ago has now totally "fused" itself to the car. There is no way this stuff is coming off.

It may have also helped that I had sprayed the entire interior first with rubberized sound deadner which probably creates a much better adhesive surface than a clean flat piece of alumimum that they used in the test?

Phil

[restomodcougar]

The adhesive is gone completely on two unused rolls after about 2 years on the shelf. That wouldn't have anything to do with heat. Anywhere there was heat in the car (like the tranny tunnel) the foil tends to peel away and the sound deadener itself is melted to the floor. And that's with less than 50 miles on the car since installation. Up under the dash, where heat isn't much of a factor, it's falling down. And I haven't even driven the car since doing up under the dash. I started with just the floor and doors and ended up doing the firewall and under the dash later when the car came completely apart.

Hey PT. I have used this product on numerous restorations and have never had a problem. How is the humidity level whey the rolls are stored?? You could of gotten a bad batch as anything is possible.

Here is a pic of an installation in my 67 Pro Touring Mercury Cougar.