Vin Tag Removal Question

[toofun]

OK,

Thanks for all of your help. I have an update on what the deal was. Sec of State police came down and ATTACHED A VIN Plate to the car. It is the SAME EXACT VIN number as what is on the title.. They attached it to the INSIDE of the DOOR PILLAR. There is NO VIN TAG in the ORIGINAL spot. So the question that remains is. Now that I have a legal VIN TAG attached to the car on the door, can I get a VIN plate made that goes in the original spot and attach it myself??

Again, just trying to make sure that I can legally do this. I dont want any problems with this vehicle...

Thanks
Mark

[vintageracer]

"So the question that remains is. Now that I have a legal VIN TAG attached to the car on the door, can I get a VIN plate made that goes in the original spot and attach it myself??"

NO, not legally. The VIN tag installed by the State Of Illinois is now the VIN or record. Yes, I know the Illinois VIN is the same as the original VIN. I am just answering the question as asked.

There is a very good chance that the Illinois reassinged VIN sticker will have a "control number" or even a "bar code" also included on the new VIN sticker. This will uniquely differentiate this new VIN tag sticker for all time in the future.

The second answer to your question is, yes, you could call old Billy and get a repo VIN tag, install it on your car and remove the Illinois VIN sticker since the title will still match the new repo VIN sticker. Illegal but you could damn sure do it and it most certainly has been done. You could also buy a repo VIN tag, install it on the car and leave the Illinois reassinged VIN tag, but why? That's a waste of money spent on the repo VIN tag since everyone will still see the reassinged Illinois VIN sticker.

Given the fact that the car still retains the original VIN number I would not do that since you then open YOURSELF up to potential liability in the future if there ever is a problem and they find out that YOU swapped the VIN tags. You said the original VIN tag was illegible. Are you getting that original tag with the purchase of the car? Did YOU ever see the original illegible tag? I would want that illegible original tag if I purchased the car.

I perviously owned a georgous 87 GN with a Texas reassinged VIN. The reassigned VIN was also the original VIN since the car was stolen/recovered. This information also matched the ****** which reflected the theft and recovery of the car. It was a beautiful car that sold for about $2000 less than the price of a 87 GN in the same condition with an original VIN when I sold the car. Of course I bought the car $4000 less than value when I purchased it by pissing and moaning to the seller about the reassinged VIN sticker and he gave in and sold me the car since he needed the money!!!

In the above case, the 87 GN was a low mileage completely stock car. That's why the VIN issue effected the value of the car so greatly. I still do not think a reassinged VIN will effect the value as much on a PT car since most of us are building these cars from junk anyway!

[toofun]

Again I thank you for all of your help... Here is what I have found out as an end to this...

I spoke DIRECTLY to the SEC OF STATE POLICE Trooper that did the inspection on the vehicle. He told me that the VIN TAG he installed is a METAL TAG attached with state of illinois stamped rivets installed on the door. It is the EXACT SAME VIN NUMBER as what is on the title and what came originally with the car. It is NOT a reissued VIN TAG number. It is the same EXACT number. That is good!!

Bad news is that he said I can in NO WAY OR SHAPE put another tag even if it is a duplicate tag in the windshield spot, even if I leave the tag HE INSTALLED IN PLACE!! He was emphatic on this and stated that it was a FEDERAL FELONY to do so. He said he is well aware that people make them, but if you get caught with one, or if your car has one on it after being recorded like mine is, then you would be in big trouble!!

So I guess I will be content with the COMPLETE ORIGINAL VIN number on the replacement vin plate which is attached to my inner door pillar. I wont be able to put a duplicate with it on the windshield, but at least this car is 100% legal with all the documentation I will ever need to prove it. Im gonna pro tour it to the hill anyways so I guess it isnt gonna matter as far a resale goes!!

MARK
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