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    View Poll Results: WOULD YOU UDE E85 IN YOUR RIDE?

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    • YES I WOULD USE E85

      58 77.33%
    • NO E85 FOR ME

      16 21.33%
    • WHAT IS THIS E85

      1 1.33%
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    1. #36
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      Quote Originally Posted by Damn True View Post
      ...and you pay again in the case of corn, because by virtue of the diversion of the commodity to fuel (a wholly stupid premise to begin with) the cost of everything that uses corn goes up. Not just the obvious things either such as tortillas, corn flakes and corn meal but alkaline batteries, diapers and your Starbucks iced latte which is served in a cup made from corn.

      Yes, batteries and diapers have corn in them.
      OK so here we go again with food analogy again yet most people never know the truth in that corn derived ethanol(about 42% to 45% according to my research) DOES NOT USED HUMAN CONSUMED FOOD CORN.
      Now that that tid bit is out does anyone on here EVER know what comes out of the back side of a distillery? Distillers dried grains (26% pure protein cattle feed) or wet cattle feed. and is used in feeding many types of live stock and it makes another industry in the shipping there of.
      Now a lot of BS is going along for the ride on increasing prices of food produced with corn derivatives yet when the actual prices are adjusted for the devaluation of the dollar over the last 6 years the food prices are in steady relationship, increasing since 2008-2009 with specific economic issues helping.
      Ethanol and E85 have not caused any significant shortages YET farmers wages and ability to make a better profit have gone up, only issue is that other costs like fertilizer, fuel and lubricants are going up faster,, hmmm too bad we arent drilling our own oil,,,,.
      But the fact is there were several racing organizations asked to consider ethanol over methanol. Indy did change I believe, didnt they?
      As for an alcohol class I would greatly appreciate NHRA and IHRA pushing for an actual E85 class, let it be spec fuel class with carbs in one class and FI in another, only issue is a test port to verify fuel used. I know one fella who developed an inline fuel content measuring device to verify the alcohol content of fuels and it employs both E85 and M85(methanol based) technology.
      As anyone knows Methanol is SOOOOO corrosive compared to Ethanol.
      Ethanol is easily contaminated by water but simply adding a set amount of E100 can help this dilution.
      As for me I hope I can get my FI kit idea working.
      Let be honest if your running an aluminum headed LS some of those can run 11 to 1 , 11.5 to one and never have an issue on Premium unleaded, so if a set up comes out that is cheaper, more easily tuned AND repaired and can run from E10 to E100 with no issue, who wouldnt buy it. rune your car on pump E10 (this is because MTBE the former oxygenate has been banned as it pollutes ground water) so the natural choice would me one that if the whole 10000 gallons spilled from a tanker what clean up is there, non it will dissipate/evaporate and all you have to do is keep it from lighting on fire,,,heck ethanol wont even poison a water supply, ever wonder where some small breweries used to dump waste/bad beer/liquors,, into local sewage and water ways as it poses little to no risks.
      Now if we can have 105 octane fuel, and get it at a reasonable price and you can buy a system to run it easily as filling the tank would you?
      I know I will.
      too bad so many people have wrong information. See when the ethanol subsidies went into effect it was to help build infrastructure, distilleries, shipping pipe line similar to gas, distribution system after production. They were never meant to be forever till democratic control extended them indefinitely for the most part. Also what was not shown in news were the conservatives who back renewable sources of fuel and such wanted toadd in legislation to slowly reduce the systems dependence on subsidies.
      Big thing that hurt the ethanol issue was when the replacement mandate started Katrina damaged so much of the fuel industry's ability to MEET EPA rules as the ability to produce ethanol, blend it into car fuel and get it to stations was diminished and caused major price issues as fuel supplies were stretched. Much of ethanol production comes from waste foods, left overs from sugar production and such, yet you never hear about it. all you hear about are corn prices and all the other blather as you never see the true facts.
      Will I use E85, sure as long as local station has it and I can get reliable fuel from it ie not contaminated.
      Will it be my first and only line of fuel for my cars, no, I will attempt to make my car adaptable to using both E10 and E85.
      Also will most likely have a methanol/water injection system and inter cooling on my cars to help with tuning issues and I also am looking at using wide band for tuning AND may even try to build my own roller loading system down the road.

      Lee Abel
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