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    1. #1
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      Solid front leaf spring bushings?

      OK I posted this question on an older post, but apparently nobody noticed it, so I'm starting a new one. I did use the search function and found lots of info on the subject, but I didn't really find a straight answer, and I left more confused than when I started.
      So...

      My car has the Hotchkis TVS installed, I have the Hotchkis front and rear swaybars installed as well. When I did the install, I also included a set of Competition Engineering slide-link traction bars. At the time I thought I needed them to control wheelhop. Now I know that the traction bars were not necessary, but I am wondering, will they hurt cornering performance? The main question I have though is in regard to the solid aluminum front eye bushings that came with these traction bars. I pressed them in the front eye of my springs, with the Hotchkis poly bushings in the rear shackles. Now I am wondering if I made the right choice. I am trying to tune my suspension for max STREET performance. This is not a racecar. I noticed there are those who say the front spring eye should be rubber or a pivot-ball, to avoid bind. But then there is another school of thought that says the front spring mount should be solid, and the rear shackles allowed to flex via a softer bushing. What gives? can my setup be made to work ok?

      BTW my car is still 100% street-driven at this point, however I want the best handling possible from it. I have SC & C pro-lite UCA's going on the front soon, not sure if that makes a difference. Outstanding handling on the street is my primary goal, with ride quality coming in second. It may see a few passes down a dragstrip in the future, but I don't want to sacrifice handling ability for straight-line performance by any means.



      1980 Pontiac Trans Am, Chevy Big Block 468, TKO 600 Trans, Hotchkis TVS, Bilsteins, Eaton/Motive 3:73's, 18" Coddington Junkyard Dogs, Nitto NT555 rubber, Autometers http://www.fquick.com/Bandit
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    2. #2
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      How much horespower do you have?
      I would certainly try the rubber front eye bushing and no links and compare.

      On the Global West site, they used to have a warning about running an aluminum front eye bushing and poly or rubber rear bushings. They feel the leaf acts like a huge lever on the front leaf bracket and it's only held in with three clip nuts so there is potential for it to be torn out or loosened. I guess this assumes the driver is corning hard a lot of the time.
      David
      67 Camaro RS that will be faster than anything Mary owns.

    3. #3
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      Where can I get that rear cover?

    4. #4
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      The cover is from drivetrain.com, not sure if they still have them...
      1980 Pontiac Trans Am, Chevy Big Block 468, TKO 600 Trans, Hotchkis TVS, Bilsteins, Eaton/Motive 3:73's, 18" Coddington Junkyard Dogs, Nitto NT555 rubber, Autometers http://www.fquick.com/Bandit
      http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2458763

    5. #5
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      the front part of the leaf is the stiff part main fuction is to act as a lower control arm so it does not comply verry well that make it necessary to use rubber or a pivot joint in the front eye.
      https://www.protouringf-body.com "doing what they say can't be done"

    6. #6
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      Quote Originally Posted by 79T/Aman
      the front part of the leaf is the stiff part main fuction is to act as a lower control arm so it does not comply verry well that make it necessary to use rubber or a pivot joint in the front eye.
      Son of a...
      I knew you guys were going to say this. So the solid bushing is good for drag-racing only? Should I ditch the bushings and traction bars altogether? What about using something like this for the front bushing? (I don't think they are a sponsor here, so I didn't include the name, I hope that's ok) It's just an example of a pivot-ball design.

      Or are there better options for my car? What should I do with the rear shackles, leave the Hotckis bushings installed? Also, if I have to take off the springs to press the bushing, I want to lower the rear a bit, the Hotchkis springs ride a bit high for my taste. Would lowering blocks be ok in this case? Can somebody here help me get this stuff?

      P.S. (I make about 450 hp)
      1980 Pontiac Trans Am, Chevy Big Block 468, TKO 600 Trans, Hotchkis TVS, Bilsteins, Eaton/Motive 3:73's, 18" Coddington Junkyard Dogs, Nitto NT555 rubber, Autometers http://www.fquick.com/Bandit
      http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2458763




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