Bullrun

[Damn True]

Yeah Rich and Phil were real good guys, I have stayed in touch with them.

Fonzi

Dude I didn't realize until this post that you were on the show too. I never made the connection. Yeah yeah I haven't read the whole thread. But I can read a map.

I'm rooting for the New Yorkers and the Mexicans.

Who's Mosler was on the flatbed when the 'bama boys went on the hook?



Seriously though. Did it occur to anyone to grab a cheap-a$$ compass from a truck-stop.

Hint: The sun rises in the east and sets in the west and if you are driving along the Pacific Ocean and the water is on your right you are going South.

Just kidding you East Coast guys. I had a tough time with direction when I moved to NYC. No mountains and the ocean is on the wrong side of the land. But Dirty Rice has no excuse, he's from the Bay Area.

[muthstryker]

shows getting cool. the mexicans are getting luck though. i dont think they will make it after the next show. they are pretty funny tho. i surely hope you guys "mr angry and xjguy" atleast make it to the last couple of shows.

[FoxGranadaChuck]

shows getting cool. the mexicans are getting luck though. i dont think they will make it after the next show. they are pretty funny tho. i surely hope you guys "mr angry and xjguy" atleast make it to the last couple of shows.

I just hope that they install new exhaust header gaskets before their next competition.

[MrAngry]

Being on the show was a blast and in one way or another everyone had problems at times. I think we were all bummed to see the Bama' Boys go - they were both great guys but I think that everyone knew from the start that the car wasn't really up for the show. Ya' know they cut out SO MUCH for tv, but I really wish that everyone could've seen the roads we actually drove on when we're in CA. Probably some of the tightest, twistiest stuff I have ever seen and throwing a 4000+lb. musclecar around on them was no easy task, as I am sure Rich and Andre' can attest too.

The Mexican's are just plain hilarious and really some great guys as well, so are the Nissan boys for that matter. I think as whole though everyone was pretty impressed with our 40 year old tanks (Charger/Oldsmobile). As for gas mileage, I was pulling about 9-11 on the highway most of the time... it sucked. I run a 3-speed 727 with a Gear Vendors over/underdrive unit - and THANK GOD for that thing.

Rich/Andre' - had you guys do on gas?

[CraigMorrison]

Missed the show on Tuesday, but caught it on the spiketv website. Very cool episode.

The roads of southern Oregon, northern California are crazy, fun but crazy. They definitely sort out the men from the boys. We did a cruise from Tacoma WA down to LA out on the coast last summer with a group of hot rods & PT cars, so I bet we were on some of the same roads.

Good luck! the show's only getting better!

Was the car on the flatbed a Mosler or a Noble? For a minute I thought it was the Lotus guys........

[StRacerDuke]

It looks like the Mosler/Noble(?) is the same car they were using to demonstrate each callenge before the competetion. I wouldn't be surprised if it were owned by Goldberg and he used it to drive some of the legs of the race too.

[Damn True]

What was the story on the Honda guys vs. the bus? Was there a reason they had to stop once they bent that pole?

The driving while black segment was interesting. I 1/2 expected to hear the cop say, "You ain't from around here are ya?"

[6'9"Witha69]

Was the car on the flatbed a Mosler or a Noble? For a minute I thought it was the Lotus guys........

I was distracted but the wife said the same thing.

The driving while black segment was interesting. I 1/2 expected to hear the cop say, "You ain't from around here are ya?"

Yeah, it sucked to see that. I think the only reason they weren't harassed more was all the cameras.

[FoxGranadaChuck]

What was the story on the Honda guys vs. the bus? Was there a reason they had to stop once they bent that pole?

The driving while black segment was interesting. I 1/2 expected to hear the cop say, "You ain't from around here are ya?"

The odd thing was that this took place in Oregon, not some state in the South.

[Damn True]

The odd thing was that this took place in Oregon, not some state in the South.

Having lived along the Oregon coast for a while I can honestly say that it didn't surprise me. That part of Oregon is populated by fishermen and loggers of Finnish, Swede and German extraction and it is the "white-est" place I have ever seen. My first wife was from Astoria, OR. Until we moved to Brooklyn she had never met a black person and the only asians she had contact with were crew from Chinese cargo/fishing boats that pulled into Astoria and shopped for supplies for the ships.

Those guys would be more likely to be pulled over for "driving while black" there than in the town where the Mustang boys were from in 'bama.

[Damn True]

It looks like the Mosler/Noble(?) is the same car they were using to demonstrate each callenge before the competetion. I wouldn't be surprised if it were owned by Goldberg and he used it to drive some of the legs of the race too.

Interesting. If I recall though, the demo car is light color like a silver and had no rear wing and the Mosler/Noble looked rather dark and had a wing. Coulda been the lighting.

[FoxGranadaChuck]

Having lived along the Oregon coast for a while I can honestly say that it didn't surprise me. That part of Oregon is populated by fishermen and loggers of Finnish, Swede and German extraction and it is the "white-est" place I have ever seen. My first wife was from Astoria, OR. Until we moved to Brooklyn she had never met a black person and the only asians she had contact with were crew from Chinese cargo/fishing boats that pulled into Astoria and shopped for supplies for the ships.

Those guys would be more likely to be pulled over for "driving while black" there than in the town where the Mustang boys were from in 'bama.

Unfortunately true.

[FoxGranadaChuck]

Being on the show was a blast and in one way or another everyone had problems at times. I think we were all bummed to see the Bama' Boys go - they were both great guys but I think that everyone knew from the start that the car wasn't really up for the show. Ya' know they cut out SO MUCH for tv, but I really wish that everyone could've seen the roads we actually drove on when we're in CA. Probably some of the tightest, twistiest stuff I have ever seen and throwing a 4000+lb. musclecar around on them was no easy task, as I am sure Rich and Andre' can attest too.

The Mexican's are just plain hilarious and really some great guys as well, so are the Nissan boys for that matter. I think as whole though everyone was pretty impressed with our 40 year old tanks (Charger/Oldsmobile). As for gas mileage, I was pulling about 9-11 on the highway most of the time... it sucked. I run a 3-speed 727 with a Gear Vendors over/underdrive unit - and THANK GOD for that thing.

Rich/Andre' - had you guys do on gas?

If I may ask, how did you guys set-up the suspension in your Charger?! The reason that I ask is that I was so utterly intrigued by how your "40 year-old sled" (as Goldberg put it) smoked that Lotus!

It has always been by contention that the basic 60's-70's Mopar chassis design was among the very best in automotive history. Your outperforming the Lotus was proof positive of that!

I wish you Charger guys Godspeed!!!

[Rich Team11 H/O]

We got around 7-10 mpg depending on the fuel grade, and the altitude which was causing havoc with our car's performance. The engine is a behemoth and thirsty as all heck.

Ill second what Mike said, for the most part everyone was very cool on the show. The Bama boys were real good guys same with the Nissan guys, the Mexicans were hilarious the whole time, so much is being lost to the editing room floor that its really a shame. We traveled along the coast during sunset and saw some of the most amazing vistas that I have ever seen...none of that is being shown. We and the Lambo team tore up the twisties right before hitting the racoon like it was our last day on earth...cut out as well. Team Lambo said that they could not believe how well the Hurst handled and how he was unable to shake us or make us come unglued. In part due to the tires suggested hear on Pro-Touring.com!!! Thanks again guys!


The Mosler is owned by the owners of Bullrun, the SSC is owned by SSC compnay and I guess they were there for puiblicity, they are two completely different cars. The Mosler looks almost like the Lotus, the SSC is about the size of a Diablo, but is even wider than the Murcielago, it uses a Corvette racing engine.

We are all clearly being shaped to the viewers by the editing.

[FoxGranadaChuck]

We got around 7-10 mpg depending on the fuel grade, and the altitude which was causing havoc with our car's performance. The engine is a behemoth and thirsty as all heck.

Ill second what Mike said, for the most part everyone was very cool on the show. The Bama boys were real good guys same with the Nissan guys, the Mexicans were hilarious the whole time, so much is being lost to the editing room floor that its really a shame. We traveled along the coast during sunset and saw some of the most amazing vistas that I have ever seen...none of that is being shown. We and the Lambo team tore up the twisties right before hitting the racoon like it was our last day on earth...cut out as well. Team Lambo said that they could not believe how well the Hurst handled and how he was unable to shake us or make us come unglued. In part due to the tires suggested hear on Pro-Touring.com!!! Thanks again guys!


The Mosler is owned by the owners of Bullrun, the SSC is owned by SSC compnay and I guess they were there for puiblicity, they are two completely different cars. The Mosler looks almost like the Lotus, the SSC is about the size of a Diablo, but is even wider than the Murcielago, it uses a Corvette racing engine.

We are all clearly being shaped to the viewers by the editing.

I for one am glad that you guys are doing well in that rally.

[Ralph LoGrasso]

The Mexicans running the light bulb slalom was hilarious. "It was either lose a light bulb, or lose a mexican"

[staged67gspwr]

The Mexicans running the light bulb slalom was hilarious. "It was either lose a light bulb, or lose a mexican"

I was rollin when he said that,lmfaooooooooo!!!!those guys are hillarious.

Thanks

[vanzuuk1]

The charger is set up well, but I give mike the credit for the driving,he drove hard without overdriving.

[MrAngry]

Here you go - my suspension set-up is as follows:

Suspension
• Firm Feel Stage III Power Steering box, fast ratio pitman arm, idler, greaseable lower arm shafts and nylon lower arm bushings
• Energy Suspension bushings installed front to rear
• MagnumForce Racing fully adjustable tubular upper control arms – set at –5 degrees camber
• Hotchkis 1 3/8” Hallow front Sway Bar
• Addco 7/8” rear sway bar
• All ball joints and tie rods replaced
• Mopar Performance 1” pre-lowered Hemi rear leaf springs; 1” block lowering kit for a total of 2” in the rear
• Mopar Performance oversized front .96 torsion bars. Lowered to be just above bump stops
• Edelbrock Performer IAS Shocks
• XV Motorsports Chassie stiffening kit: Subframe connectors, engine brace, inner-fender well braces and radiator support.

Drive train
• 727 Torqueflite Transmission
• Has a reverse manual valve body shifter mechanism.
• Mopar 8 3/4” Suregrip rear with 3.55 gears
• Gear Vendors Over/Underdrive Unit w/final 2.76 ratio in OD
• Cheetah SCS reverse pattern cable driven shifter
• Moser 29 spline performance rear axles

[FoxGranadaChuck]

Here you go - my suspension set-up is as follows:

Suspension
• Firm Feel Stage III Power Steering box, fast ratio pitman arm, idler, greaseable lower arm shafts and nylon lower arm bushings
• Energy Suspension bushings installed front to rear
• MagnumForce Racing fully adjustable tubular upper control arms – set at –5 degrees camber
• Hotchkis 1 3/8” Hallow front Sway Bar
• Addco 7/8” rear sway bar
• All ball joints and tie rods replaced
• Mopar Performance 1” pre-lowered Hemi rear leaf springs; 1” block lowering kit for a total of 2” in the rear
• Mopar Performance oversized front .96 torsion bars. Lowered to be just above bump stops
• Edelbrock Performer IAS Shocks
• XV Motorsports Chassie stiffening kit: Subframe connectors, engine brace, inner-fender well braces and radiator support.

Drive train
• 727 Torqueflite Transmission
• Has a reverse manual valve body shifter mechanism.
• Mopar 8 3/4” Suregrip rear with 3.55 gears
• Gear Vendors Over/Underdrive Unit w/final 2.76 ratio in OD
• Cheetah SCS reverse pattern cable driven shifter
• Moser 29 spline performance rear axles

Thanks man!!!