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    1. #21
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      Quote Originally Posted by novanutcase
      RELIABLE??? On 2 liters?? Good Luck! Unless they have made these size motors more reliable, I can tell you that you will be wrenching on this sucker pretty much every weekend! I would imagine that you will top it off with some Weber 48 IDA's? Those things are a bear to adjust but when you do....LOOKOUT...that motor will scream!!! Make sure you run a stout trans as the VW stock ones will blow up with that kind of power. I went through 2 transmissions before coughing up the dough and buying a bus tranny. Make sure you use blued axles too. I sheared the ones on my first tranny.

      John
      I'm talking about a 2 liter type 4 engine, not a type 1. There's no way I would think of building a daily driver 2270 type 1 motor. Not very streetable. A type 4 2270 will travel coast-to-coast all day long and give you great gas milage to boot. I don't think I could ever have another type 1 engine. Porsche all the way



    2. #22
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      Quote Originally Posted by toxicz28
      The '54 I'm doing, only had a little bit of rust. It's biggest problem it had was cracks in the metal.
      Make sure your trans isn't a crashbox. The easiest way to tell, is if the case splits down the middle giving you a right and a left half. They're garbage and won't handle more than 40hp. (per the owner of strictly foreign)
      I will be using the Stage B swing axle from www.aircooledtechnology.com. They are built for the engine I want to build and moderately priced.

      http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/s...cat=319&page=1

    3. #23
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      Type 4? I've been out of the game for a while so a quick tutorial is needed! Is the Type 4 a pancake 914 engine? How hard is it to modify this to fit in a bug?
      '66 Chevy II - The "NEW" '69 Camaro!

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    4. #24
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      Quote Originally Posted by novanutcase
      Type 4? I've been out of the game for a while so a quick tutorial is needed! Is the Type 4 a pancake 914 engine? How hard is it to modify this to fit in a bug?
      Thats the one.
      They are not difficult to convert to upright, at all. The block is basically the same as a type1, but thicker and allows for bigger displacements without thinning the case too much. A HUGE advantage is the benefit of utilizing the Porsche-style fan. The one in this picture looks like a type1, but the fan is what I wanted to point out. The type 4 would look just like it:


    5. #25
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      Interesting how this thread got hijaked into an ACVW thread! LOL!

      Josh - Do yourself a favor and call Rancho Transmissions in Anaheim. Talk to Sam. They are the best when it comes to transaxles. You may want to DIY, but trust me, its worth the shipping costs to have an expert do it. BTW, you don't have to build a "large" 2 liter motor to make a reliable 150hp. If that's your goal, a 1914 or 2011 Type 1 motor will get you there easily. We had a customer that we built a reliable 2011 that made 205 and was a daily driver. This was in a HEAVY ghia and that thing screamed!

      Novanutcase - stop bringing up all these VW memories. Its going to make me want to go get my '60 ragtop from mom and start messing with it! I'll never get my wagon done!

      C-

      Edit: Josh - You beat me to the punch with that photo.... please, please, please stay away from Bernie's engines. If you'd like some names to reliable engine builders, PM me. I worked in the ACVW industry for 7 years (at RLR) and still have lots of good contacts there.
      http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2389193/1
      '66 Chevy II Wagon (construction under way!)
      '60 VW Bug, Ragtop
      '03 Subaru WRX
      '05 Saturn VUE
      Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?

    6. #26
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      Quote Originally Posted by cadpro
      Interesting how this thread got hijaked into an ACVW thread! LOL!

      Josh - Do yourself a favor and call Rancho Transmissions in Anaheim. Talk to Sam. They are the best when it comes to transaxles. You may want to DIY, but trust me, its worth the shipping costs to have an expert do it. BTW, you don't have to build a "large" 2 liter motor to make a reliable 150hp. If that's your goal, a 1914 or 2011 Type 1 motor will get you there easily. We had a customer that we built a reliable 2011 that made 205 and was a daily driver. This was in a HEAVY ghia and that thing screamed!

      Novanutcase - stop bringing up all these VW memories. Its going to make me want to go get my '60 ragtop from mom and start messing with it! I'll never get my wagon done!

      C-

      Edit: Josh - You beat me to the punch with that photo.... please, please, please stay away from Bernie's engines. If you'd like some names to reliable engine builders, PM me. I worked in the ACVW industry for 7 years (at RLR) and still have lots of good contacts there.
      Ahhhh Rancho! I too have been out of it for a few years and forgot about them. I am not nearly ready for that stage yet, but I will look them up when I am ready. I wont build the tranny myself...just the engine. I just used Bernie's picture cause it was the only one I could find with a Porsche fan ;)

      You worked at Ron Lummus? Very cool. They make some great buggy stuff! My dad built a dune buggy (mostly from Larry's Offroad in Dayton) and that thing was a blast to drive. I would take it to High School sometimes. We hosted exchange students when I was younger and I'd take them to school in that thing. That German kid hated me . We'd get to school and have mud all over us. I had a hard time keeping it on the street...

    7. #27
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      God I used to LOVE wrenching on my 'dub. It was like fixing a lawnmower engine with a couple more cylinders!!!

      WOW! They sure have come a long way with VW aftermarket performance stuff. To do a Type 4 conversion used to be a pipedream as there was a lot of custom stuff that needed to be done. Hmmmm....maybe I need to start looking for a convertible ghia again!!!!

      Cadpro - you and I know that VW's will never completely leave yours or mines car nut conscienceness. It just get's put to the side a little. C'mon as much as we like to see and hear a big block come rumbling down the highway, you always get a smile on your face when you hear that nice tight 1835 buzz by you too!!!
      '66 Chevy II - The "NEW" '69 Camaro!

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    8. #28
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      http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=279
      There is a ton of mis-information about VWs out there.There are plenty of 2275 and 2332 C.C. daily driver Type 1 powered VWs out there.Several in my area alone.One is a 2332 with CB injection,and many 48 IDA Weber and Dellorto 48 carbed ones.
      http://www.dkpcarclub.com/
      Check out the Members cars.I go to their big June event every couple of years.Folks from around the globe are there for it.
      As far as Type IV...they came stock 2 liter in the bus and 912/914 Porsche,so I have seen a 3 Liter stroker.
      Here's a Cookbook....my little 1776 is in there...
      http://www.geocities.com/enginecookbook/menu.htm
      One thing I will say is,a hi-po VW is not cheap,you have to love them to do it.It cost the same to build a good VW engine as a SBC...
      I do like being able to pull the engine in 30 min. and throw the longblock VW up on the workbench though...

    9. #29
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      Quote Originally Posted by novanutcase
      C'mon as much as we like to see and hear a big block come rumbling down the highway, you always get a smile on your face when you hear that nice tight 1835 buzz by you too!!!
      Nothing like the sound of 48ida's and straight cut cam gears, right? Pulling the hammer on a 600 h.p. turbo type 1 on the dyno also gets the blood racing too!

      That's why I've vowed never to get rid of my '60. 1) my wife would kill me 2) my dad would kill me (he regrets to this day for getting rid of a '60 vette for $2000 and "making a killing" 3) my step-mom would kill me. So if ever I did get rid of it for pursuit of other prjects, I'd be dead!
      http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2389193/1
      '66 Chevy II Wagon (construction under way!)
      '60 VW Bug, Ragtop
      '03 Subaru WRX
      '05 Saturn VUE
      Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?

    10. #30
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      Quote Originally Posted by G-TX
      One thing I will say is,a hi-po VW is not cheap,you have to love them to do it.It cost the same to build a good VW engine as a SBC...
      I do like being able to pull the engine in 30 min. and throw the longblock VW up on the workbench though...
      Yup....I built my 2 liter in my upstairs bedroom when I lived with my parents. My mom kept nagging me about how it would never run and that I had to have pro to do it right, yada yada yada! You should have seen her face when the motor lit up after one pull on the key!
      '66 Chevy II - The "NEW" '69 Camaro!

      ***Under Construction***

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    11. #31
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      http://www.germanlook.com/
      Some of my VW friends run this site...if you want a corner carver VW check them out...

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