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11-30-2006 #1
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Fancy new wastegates! ! !
We have been using the Tial 44's for a while (that actually flow better than the 46) but even with a pair of them it's been a bit of a flow restriction. Causing the boost to fluctuate on the top end and making it a bear to tune. Even with a 95% ideal WG location on the outside radius of a bend right before the turbo. Well lets just say with these monsters it's not going to be an issue any longer.
From left to right:
60mm
, 50mm, and Tial 44mm


LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THAT THING. 2 1/4" in/out ports with V-band clamps. Valve has 1" of travel, all stainless housing, and they claim it will last at least 1 million full cycles on a set of O-rings at over 40psi. I have no idea how many times a normal WG cycles, but I think that should be sufficient.






Needless to say with a pair of 60's I don't think we will have any problem keeping the boost down with the "big" turbos. What can I say, we thrive on absolutely retarded overkill.
We'll be trying the 50's on a car running a pair of 76gts turbos to see how well everything works on a somewhat normal setup, something fairly tame in the 1000-1300rwhp range.
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11-30-2006 #2HMMM i currently use the Tial 44's with my pair of 70's & dont have any problem with boost creep at all. My wastegates even dump back into the downpipe.

What kind of position are your wastegates mounted in & how far away from the turbo inlet are they?'69 Firebird Twin Turbo SBC 400" Blow-through
9.80 @ 141 w/ 1.88 60-ft..... on 17's
9.21 @ 153 w/ 1.45 60-ft..... on PUMP GAS
8.60 @ 164 w/ 1.46 60-ft..... on RACE GAS
11-30-2006 #3
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It's not a design issue at all. The path to the WG is short and very direct on the outside radius right before it goes into the turbine housing.
Here is a shot from a mockup piece but you get the idea.
510ci near 7k rpm motor making almost 1400rwhp on kill (maybe more, will know shortly) flows a ton of air.
Plus the big ones just look SOOOOOOOOOOO much cooler, and being able to clock the air ports is a niiiiiice feature.
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Who makes the bigger wastegates and where can I get them?
12-01-2006 #5Hey bro its Carm (Stroked-Z)
Originally Posted by jdpepper
What you doin now lol! Still using the MP 70's or ?'69 Firebird Twin Turbo SBC 400" Blow-through
9.80 @ 141 w/ 1.88 60-ft..... on 17's
9.21 @ 153 w/ 1.45 60-ft..... on PUMP GAS
8.60 @ 164 w/ 1.46 60-ft..... on RACE GAS
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