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    1. #1
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      Oct 2005
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      Fancy new wastegates! ! !

      We have been using the Tial 44's for a while (that actually flow better than the 46) but even with a pair of them it's been a bit of a flow restriction. Causing the boost to fluctuate on the top end and making it a bear to tune. Even with a 95% ideal WG location on the outside radius of a bend right before the turbo. Well lets just say with these monsters it's not going to be an issue any longer.

      From left to right:
      60mm , 50mm, and Tial 44mm




      LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THAT THING. 2 1/4" in/out ports with V-band clamps. Valve has 1" of travel, all stainless housing, and they claim it will last at least 1 million full cycles on a set of O-rings at over 40psi. I have no idea how many times a normal WG cycles, but I think that should be sufficient.







      Needless to say with a pair of 60's I don't think we will have any problem keeping the boost down with the "big" turbos. What can I say, we thrive on absolutely retarded overkill.

      We'll be trying the 50's on a car running a pair of 76gts turbos to see how well everything works on a somewhat normal setup, something fairly tame in the 1000-1300rwhp range.


    2. #2
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      Oct 2006
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      Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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      HMMM i currently use the Tial 44's with my pair of 70's & dont have any problem with boost creep at all. My wastegates even dump back into the downpipe.



      What kind of position are your wastegates mounted in & how far away from the turbo inlet are they?
      '69 Firebird Twin Turbo SBC 400" Blow-through

      9.80 @ 141 w/ 1.88 60-ft..... on 17's
      9.21 @ 153 w/ 1.45 60-ft..... on PUMP GAS
      8.60 @ 164 w/ 1.46 60-ft..... on RACE GAS

    3. #3
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      It's not a design issue at all. The path to the WG is short and very direct on the outside radius right before it goes into the turbine housing.

      Here is a shot from a mockup piece but you get the idea.

      510ci near 7k rpm motor making almost 1400rwhp on kill (maybe more, will know shortly) flows a ton of air.

      Plus the big ones just look SOOOOOOOOOOO much cooler, and being able to clock the air ports is a niiiiiice feature.

    4. #4
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      Feb 2005
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      Who makes the bigger wastegates and where can I get them?

    5. #5
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      Quote Originally Posted by jdpepper
      Who makes the bigger wastegates and where can I get them?
      Hey bro its Carm (Stroked-Z)

      What you doin now lol! Still using the MP 70's or ?
      '69 Firebird Twin Turbo SBC 400" Blow-through

      9.80 @ 141 w/ 1.88 60-ft..... on 17's
      9.21 @ 153 w/ 1.45 60-ft..... on PUMP GAS
      8.60 @ 164 w/ 1.46 60-ft..... on RACE GAS

    6. #6
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      [quote=Turbo Hen]HMMM i currently use the Tial 44's with my pair of 70's & dont have any problem with boost creep at all. quote]
      How much boost does the kitchen table let you get? LOL!
      Jimmy

      69 Camaro Twin Turbo'd
      58 Nomad 348 Baby Rat

      http://www.fquick.com/shmoov69


    7. #7
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      Quote Originally Posted by jdpepper
      Who makes the bigger wastegates and where can I get them?

      www.jgstools.com Tell them the viper guy sent you and they should hook you up with a decent deal.

    8. #8
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      Quote Originally Posted by Turbo Hen
      Hey bro its Carm (Stroked-Z)

      What you doin now lol! Still using the MP 70's or ?
      Whats up Carm, I'm still rockin' the MP 70's to the tune of 8.7@157 plus there's more in it The bigger waste gates are for my new/old bullet

      How long b4 your new car is done?
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    9. #9
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      Quote Originally Posted by ProStreet R/T
      www.jgstools.com Tell them the viper guy sent you and they should hook you up with a decent deal.
      Thanks for the hook up man I'll call this Monday

    10. #10
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      Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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      Quote Originally Posted by jdpepper
      How long b4 your new car is done?
      Trying to get her done for early spring.....as soon as i can finish the diff, then i can build the control arms for the front to position the rim where i want it & start dropping in the old powertrain/fuel system & ignition from the other car.

      -Carm
      '69 Firebird Twin Turbo SBC 400" Blow-through

      9.80 @ 141 w/ 1.88 60-ft..... on 17's
      9.21 @ 153 w/ 1.45 60-ft..... on PUMP GAS
      8.60 @ 164 w/ 1.46 60-ft..... on RACE GAS




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