Manual vs. Auto

[aonghus]

Im yet to experience that (the bench seat, not the girl. lol)

I would imagine there are only a few problems to overcome with having two girls close on a bench seat.

Mclaren figured that one out back in 1996.

I personally am going T56 route, more control less money (I suppose thats relative though.) I'm sure our resident manumatic guru Steve could answer this question, but the main thing that keeps me from a manumatic is the lack of rev matching, I feel I'll have more precise control versus an automatic. I've driven a couple of Audi's with DSG transmissions in them, liked it a lot, drove an E46 M3 with an SMG (electronically governed hydraulic type auto), Not so fun.



Its you're call in the end though.

[Steve Chryssos]

Mclaren figured that one out back in 1996.

I personally am going T56 route, more control less money (I suppose thats relative though.) I'm sure our resident manumatic guru Steve could answer this question, but the main thing that keeps me from a manumatic is the lack of rev matching, I feel I'll have more precise control versus an automatic. I've driven a couple of Audi's with DSG transmissions in them, liked it a lot, drove an E46 M3 with an SMG (electronically governed hydraulic type auto), Not so fun.

Its you're call in the end though.

DSG is awesome. Some day all cars will be DSG since it offers true manual trans function and true automatic convenience. SMG is junk by comparison. And driving factory manumatics does not paint an accurate picture since the calibrations are set up for grandma. In your hot rod, you will be able to calibrate firmness to your personal taste.

As for rev matching, that is one thing that a torque converter cannot do. We never claim to replace the manual transmission drivinng experience--just enhance the automatic driving experience.

But lets face it, very few hot rodders actually know how to heel and toe downshift, anyway. And only a small percentage of hot rodders know how to do it properly.

[aonghus]

[quote=streetfytr68]DSG is awesome. ...SMG is junk by comparison. And driving factory manumatics does not paint an accurate picture since the calibrations are set up for grandma.quote]

Though IMHO SMG is a sad sad attempt at competition for DSG, It'd be a far-fetched argument to say that cars like the E46 M3 are tuned for grandma.

And I think Steve put it right, paddleshifting manumatic applications for our cars aren't intended to replace mannuals, but they do a dang good job of making an automatic a helluva lot more fun than drivin' a rental car!

[Steve Chryssos]

....It'd be a far-fetched argument to say that cars like the E46 M3 are tuned for grandma...

Didn't mean to lump SMG into the "slow calibration" set. I was referring to the calibrations of most manumatics. SMG works awesome during performance driving, but is somewhat clumsy during low speed maneuvers (i.e. parallel parking). DSG works well during all circumstances.

[Steve Chryssos]

Mclaren figured that one out back in 1996.

I personally am going T56 route, more control less money (I suppose thats relative though.) I'm sure our resident manumatic guru Steve could answer this question, but the main thing that keeps me from a manumatic is the lack of rev matching, I feel I'll have more precise control versus an automatic. I've driven a couple of Audi's with DSG transmissions in them, liked it a lot, drove an E46 M3 with an SMG (electronically governed hydraulic type auto), Not so fun.

Its you're call in the end though.

DSG is awesome. Some day all cars will be DSG since it offers true manual trans function and true automatic convenience. SMG is junk by comparison. And driving factory manumatics does not paint an accurate picture since the calibrations are set up for grandma. In your hot rod, you will be able to calibrate firmness to your personal taste.

As for rev matching, that is one thing that a torque converter cannot do. We never claim to replace the manual transmission drivinng experience--just enhance the automatic driving experience.

But lets face it, very few hot rodders actually know how to heel and toe downshift, anyway. And only a small percentage of hot rodders know how to do it properly.