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    1. #1
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      Mar 2005
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      Salinas, CA. 4.5 MI from the Corkscrew @ Laguna Seca
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      Time for new wiring harness.

      Well it looks like I may have to get a new wiring harness for my 68 Camaro RS/SS. Who's products have you used before and what did you think? I'm particularly interested in the kit having the proper plug for the instrument panel/cluster to work the Tic-Toc Tach. I'm also upgrading the audio and maybe add a Vintage A/C unit in the future. What did you think of the entire kit? Was it complete? Were you able to follow the instructions easily? I know you PT guys can help! Thanks, TZ



    2. #2
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      M & H Electric Fabrications at http://www.wiringharness.com/ is rediculously awesome. They will custom build replacement harnesses with aftermarket modifications to your specs.

    3. #3
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      Don't forget our sponsor American AutoWire. I've heard nothing but good things about them.

    4. #4
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      We sell a lot of American Autowire and have zero problems and fantastic support. I cannot same the same for my previous experiances with other brands.

      Check out GPSuperStore.com for the best prices

    5. #5
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      Everybody has good things to say about AAW. I am in the process of a Painful Wiring kit myself. Do not attempt that at home kids. If I ever do it again it will probably be an AAW kit.
      Nick R.
      69 Camaro - 383, 700R4, 12 bolt 3.55, Hotchkis, Bilstein, Global West, Morris Classic
      08 HHR SS - Still Stock for now
      Do you still believe in all the things that you stood by before? Are you out there on the front lines, or at home keeping score?
      Do you care to be the layer of the bricks that seal your fate? Would you rather be the architect of what we might create?

    6. #6
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      Quote Originally Posted by Jsapata
      M & H Electric Fabrications at http://www.wiringharness.com/ is rediculously awesome. They will custom build replacement harnesses with aftermarket modifications to your specs.
      I've also used M&H and been very happy with them. As noted, you can tell them what modifications you've made and they will try to acommodate you. I've not tried AAW, who may also be fine.
      Mike Kelcy - '68 Camaro with some stuff done to it.

    7. #7
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      I've installed an AAW kit in a '68 Camaro. What can I say about it? Use it. It was the best kit I've EVER used. And it includes everything you could think you'd need. By the way, I used the Classic Update kit. I hope they have one for my car when I'm ready for it.
      Allen Ortega
      Meanstreets Performance Fabrication

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    8. #8
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      While I have never used any AAW parts I have used M&H and they are terrific. Just like factory...
      67 Firebird Convert 455 +.060 Johnny Winters TH400 74cc KRE d-port flowed @ 310 cfm heads piston dished 16cc H-beam rods Comp Cam 305-AH-8 cam 108* LSA 253/260 @.050 duration .577/.594 lift w/1.65 rockers Ford 9" 3.55 Detroit Locker M/T Sportsman Radials 31x18x15 on Convo Pro 15x15s

      Honest dad that 455 on the side of the block is a serial number

    9. #9
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      TZmtrsprt,We can also help you out with the AAW Kits.They make a great product.
      Thanks Tim

    10. #10
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      Quote Originally Posted by derekf
      Don't forget our sponsor American AutoWire. I've heard nothing but good things about them.
      I got some from AAW (via GPS) for my 77 - very nice.
      Scott from NJ.

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      Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold
      I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors

    11. #11
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      Quote Originally Posted by 6'9"Witha69
      Everybody has good things to say about AAW. I am in the process of a Painful Wiring kit myself. Do not attempt that at home kids. If I ever do it again it will probably be an AAW kit.

      Id agree Painless should be named PAIN IN THE A$$
      they are complete trash.
      why buy a harness and use yellow blue and red But connectors?
      I have used 2 pain in the a$$ wire kits, one for an las1 conversion and one for a Ford f250

      I would try the AAW next other than that I build my own harneses now.
      69 Camaro
      W/D sub, Wilwood 13" brakes Bozeforged wheels 18X10 & 18X12,
      Lateral dynamics 3 link ( custom setup ) Dana 60
      lsX Twin Turbo, soon to come
      Viper T56 in place (Yay)
      Bought a running driving car so I can enjoy it before Im dead
      LD 3 Link Installed into ^^^^^ (Yay)

    12. #12
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      Salem N.H.
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      Painless ???

      Say it aint so, I will be starting my wiring harness this week. PAIN LESS .... What trouble could I expect to run into? How bout the steering connecter? Will i need to solder ? Please help. I am now scared. 69 camaro. msd , any suggestions on where to mount ignition box ? Perhaps you could send me to a thread about this ?
      Thank You
      Kevin
      69 Camaro 454
      HD soft Tail
      72 Telecaster

    13. #13
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      Quote Originally Posted by Whistle Pig
      Say it aint so, I will be starting my wiring harness this week. PAIN LESS .... What trouble could I expect to run into? How bout the steering connecter? Will i need to solder ? Please help. I am now scared. 69 camaro. msd , any suggestions on where to mount ignition box ? Perhaps you could send me to a thread about this ?
      Thank You
      Kevin
      Kevin I would Highly recomend you send that kit back to Painless.
      They dont make kits that ive seen that are all plug and play.
      you get a Box of red blue and yellow conectors to install it with
      you have to terminate things as well they do not have factory conectors..

      They use BUT conectors. Probebly the same trash your trying to get rid of by replacing the harness
      Nice eh?

      Also Every kit Ive used has had something wired wrong
      I hate to bash them but Im just telling you my experiences with painfull
      When you call the help line they have retards reading scripts and looking up info on alldata. We all know Alldata isnt 100% correct either.

      I REALLY REALLY REALLY suggest you buy from AAW or another recomended seller here
      69 Camaro
      W/D sub, Wilwood 13" brakes Bozeforged wheels 18X10 & 18X12,
      Lateral dynamics 3 link ( custom setup ) Dana 60
      lsX Twin Turbo, soon to come
      Viper T56 in place (Yay)
      Bought a running driving car so I can enjoy it before Im dead
      LD 3 Link Installed into ^^^^^ (Yay)

    14. #14
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      Jan 2006
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      Dallas, Ga.
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      I used AAW, Called and told Ray what car I had and what I would be changing or modifying. Delivered in a few weeks plug and play. Perfect fit, excellent qaulity, matched all factory original color codes and plugs. An absolutely beautiful product, and the best customer service I experienced next to hydratech which was also a great company to deal with.

    15. #15
      Join Date
      Nov 2005
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      Madspeed! You mentioned that you've had problems with painless kits not wired properly,,just curious what was wrong?? Did they have wires hooked to the wrong fuses?? I started running all the wires on my car a few weekends ago, using their 18 circuit universal muscle car kit! Thought things where going pretty good,,getting kind of nervous now!!

    16. #16
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      Jun 2005
      Location
      Bellmawr, New Jersey
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      Thank you for all the nice comments, guys!

      TZmtrsprt: If you need a catalog or simply to ask a few questions about which harness works with your application, I'd be happy to help. You can send me a PM, email or call toll free (800.482.WIRE). I can help get you in touch with a dealer if you'd like.

      Thanks again for the votes of confidence. Thats what means the most to us.

    17. #17
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      Dec 2005
      Location
      Salem N.H.
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      Madspeed , thank you.
      I am guessing aaw has plug in wiring systems? Sound nice.
      Sounds like I wasted 450 bucks on painless. Any guess on aaw pricing?
      Kevin
      69 Camaro 454
      HD soft Tail
      72 Telecaster

    18. #18
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      Whistle Pig, call American Auto Wire and ask for Theresa. It'll be the best call you've ever made. And it's not because of her voice....
      Allen Ortega
      Meanstreets Performance Fabrication

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    19. #19
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      Dec 2005
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      Salem N.H.
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      Painless ???

      Thank Bugger, To hell wit the pain.
      kevin
      69 Camaro 454
      HD soft Tail
      72 Telecaster

    20. #20
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      Apr 2001
      Location
      Central CA USA
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      The American Auto Wire upgrade kit looks terriffic.
      David
      67 Camaro RS that will be faster than anything Mary owns.

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