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    1. #1
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      Wyotech... Guinnea pig????

      I have a friend that just graduated from Wyotech in Wyoming... He was telling me today about "customer cars." Basically you bring your car in to have work done to it and all you pay for is the materials to complete the job... Chassis work, body work (chopped tops, sectioned, channeled, etc.) Whatever you want done basically...

      What do you guys think about this?? Has anyone ever done this before? Give examples of past experiences. How did it turn out??

      I'm not so sure I like the idea of having "newbies" work on my car but the price is sure good, you know???? Just gets me thinking hmmmmmmm.. Feedback!!!!!
      T



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      There's quite a few automotive schools that do just that. The school where I got my training did the same thing. I must've done 30 alignments every couple weeks.....

      As long as the teachers are doing their job, it's not too bad a deal. For real custom work, don't hold your standards too high.
      Allen Ortega
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    3. #3
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      Quote Originally Posted by zbugger
      For real custom work, don't hold your standards too high.
      I'm thinking along the lines of chassis and suspension work. What is considered "real custom"?? My buddy said they installed several C5 IFS's on various cars and they supposedly turned out great... Is that in the realm of "real custom"?? Would you consider sending your car to have this type of work done??

      ....I guess sending a MaxG chassis over there is probably out of the question then......
      T

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      we built some real sweet stuff when I was at wyotech. a tube chassis for a 70 chevelle and a full chassis for a s10 pickup with a full custom subframe set up for air ride and tucking 22's all the way around. those were 2 builds I was part of. it can work to your advantage as long as you get a couple guys who know what there doing! some kids there could barley turn a wrench....kinda scary!!
      colt zantop

      1968 camaro LS1.......aka......."NJECTED"

    5. #5
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      Quote Originally Posted by colt zantop
      we built some real sweet stuff when I was at wyotech. a tube chassis for a 70 chevelle and a full chassis for a s10 pickup with a full custom subframe set up for air ride and tucking 22's all the way around. those were 2 builds I was part of. it can work to your advantage as long as you get a couple guys who know what there doing! some kids there could barley turn a wrench....kinda scary!!
      Sweet!!!!! So you must have been one of those guys who "knew what they were doing"

      Arent the teachers there to make sure the jobs get done right??

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      Real custom would be chopped tops, channeling, stuff like that. Most of the stuff that's done isn't all that bad. If I was thinking of sending my car there for any work, I'd check it out first anyway.
      Allen Ortega
      Meanstreets Performance Fabrication

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      I would definitely check it out before I took my car there. Talk with the teacher and possibly meet the students. My friend could probably give me the inside info. on all of that, he knows everyone in Wyoming now...... Thanks for the input
      T

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      yeah...the instructors will help you with ANYTHING you want......the biggest problem now though is the classes are so crammed with guys that the teachers are spread WAYYYYYY to thin. so you cant get as much done on a build waiting for an instructor 50% of the time.
      colt zantop

      1968 camaro LS1.......aka......."NJECTED"

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      Quote Originally Posted by colt zantop
      yeah...the instructors will help you with ANYTHING you want......the biggest problem now though is the classes are so crammed with guys that the teachers are spread WAYYYYYY to thin. so you cant get as much done on a build waiting for an instructor 50% of the time.
      So how long would it take for a C5 IFS roughly?? I mean do they take your car for a couple weeks or a few months on something like that?? I would think they have to take it slowly 'cus it's all in the name of learning, right???

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      for your car to go in...you have to either know an instructor or a person thats in the class claim it as "their car". its getting harder to get vehicles into the school from what Ive heard. if your buddy takes it in as his...he will have roughly 5 weeks in shop with it depending on class, instructors...etc. we had 6 weeks shop time and other classes complained becuase they only got 4-5 but our class wizzed through the book crap quick therefore got to go to shop early. it also problably depends on which campus your at. I was at the blairsville PA campus. good luck and I hope you get it in....depending on how many people are on the build...you should have no problem finishing that rearend in 3 weeks I would asume. I seen some builds that had 6-8 students on it at all times so stuff gets fab'ed , mocked up, etc. pretty darn quick.
      colt zantop

      1968 camaro LS1.......aka......."NJECTED"

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      I know a couple of WyoTech graduates.

      One of them I would not trust to stand still with a wrench in their hands..... and the other couldnt manage his way out of a wet paper bag.

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      Quote Originally Posted by chicane67
      I know a couple of WyoTech graduates.

      One of them I would not trust to stand still with a wrench in their hands..... and the other couldnt manage his way out of a wet paper bag.

      just because they went to wyotech doesnt mean they are street rod/ muscle car builders. if you want the instructors to hold your hand all the way through...they will......its the guys that already have some experience and then go to school that come out ahead. you gotta push yourself at these types of schools becuase the instructors will push you far enough to pass (70%) and thats it.
      colt zantop

      1968 camaro LS1.......aka......."NJECTED"

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      Quote Originally Posted by chicane67
      I know a couple of WyoTech graduates.

      One of them I would not trust to stand still with a wrench in their hands..... and the other couldnt manage his way out of a wet paper bag.
      Do not forget he is an old blue hair as well.
      Brian


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      I think I'm going to pursue it and see where it takes me... The problem for me is:
      -I really don't have the experience in something like this at all, I admit it!!!
      -I don't really have a shop thats large enough to take on such a project
      -I have basic tools at best
      -I work 48 hours a week minimum and I'm really not motivated to do much after work 'cus I'm beat!! (mill worker) etc. etc. etc...

      I just think with my experience level and situation right now that these students would do a better job then I could accomplish in a fraction of the time. I'm really leaning toward sending my car over there IF i can get it in there... I'm going to talk with my buddy and see what he can do for me........ Thanks for your input guys
      T

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      I’m going to graduate from wyotech in about 6 weeks, I wish I knew you wanted some work done back when I was in chassis fab. I would have treated your car as if it were my own. Its true about 80% of the people at this school are morons…. But I like to think ill get the jobs, and do the quality of work they wont

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      Quote Originally Posted by RobM
      I’m going to graduate from wyotech in about 6 weeks, I wish I knew you wanted some work done back when I was in chassis fab. I would have treated your car as if it were my own. Its true about 80% of the people at this school are morons…. But I like to think ill get the jobs, and do the quality of work they wont

      I appreciate the gesture Rob.... Thanks bro!! Goodluck with the career.
      T

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      i wont quit untill im where i want to be, thanks for the suport

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      Metalcraft tools has the program you want, ten guys in a class, live hands-on projects. www.metalcrafttools.com

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      Curious if anything knows more about doing something like this. I would love to save some money and have it sent to someplace where guys will fix my body work under the supervision of an instructor...anybody know of places I could contact in order to "donate" my car to be used as a project???
      Colin Russ

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      Here's a school I found out about through a friend. It's called FabSchool - it's geared more towards building off-road chassis', but the principles are the same. And if you learned how to build an off-road chassis, a simple chassis for a PT project should be a piece of cake.

      http://www.thefabschool.com/
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