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    1. #1
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      wrecks to riches..anyone like?

      ok he redid a 69 camaro tonight..and actually wasnt a bad price..but damn does the same guy bid on everyone of his cars..ardell...lol..i found it to be funny..guess im just jelous i cant buy them all..what do you guys think of the show?

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      i only caught the end. looked like an ok build, got no idea if he mini tubbed it, or what kind of suspension is under it, but it looked ok.

      was it worth 55? Not to me.
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      I just finished watching the show.Ilike the show,I loved the car.Nice color,nice engine and the stripe wasn't as goofy as the Chevelle's stripe was the first week.Not so sure about the accounting on the show though.Seems to me more money is involved than they're admitting to. Just my opinion. Larry

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      I think he's fudging the numbers, I wouldn't be that happy if it only sold for $10k more. Not enough money for all the trouble. I think $55k was a fair deal for that car. Did anyone else think $25k for the red Camaro vert was cheap?

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      I took this from the lateral G site where I placed my original post.

      "I just finished watching tonights episode of Wrecks to Riches where they built a 69 Camaro. That show is so fundamentally artificial. I have seen the last three episodes and the same people are on site bidding on the cars. I feel as if the good people of TLC have grossly underestimated their audience and think they can pull one over on the viewer. In addition, that car was a piece of caca. Anyone can slap a paint job and wheels on a car and say it's custom. If this Barry fellow is so "high profile", enough to warrant his own show, he should try building cars that will impress audiences with craftmanship and creativity. You can slap a bow on a piece of crap, but it's still a piece of crap. Just my thoughts after blowing an hour on the couch. Any comments???"

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      I would have pulled it as soon as I saw that red one go for so little.

      The 69 was pretty nice. It was funny to see such a professional shop pulling some real rookie mistakes. Alot of them.

      Abit harsh there Enzo? He builds alot nice cars and well after Boyds show i've learned you can't always believe what you see on TV.

      Nice ride and good build coverage but the rookie mistakes made me cringe. I doubt it was mini tubbed by the way they trimmed the quarters...ouch! $57K they deserved it. It would be nice to see it at BJ's and get more.

      Same people....I think that guys owns the whole collection, and a new shirt.
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      Yeah there is something seriously up with the red vert. Either totally fake just to make an impression of how nice the silver car was, or someone got a smokin deal.

      The suspension looked pretty tame. Leaf springs out back, looked like DSE arms, stock subframe.

      And i'm thinking they fudged the #'s quite a bit. That is unless they did the entire drivetrain, interior, wheels, brakes, and EFI for $15k. As they claimed to have near 30 into the body+paint.

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      I agree the show is a little distorted from reality but so far I have liked the look of each car.

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      Personally, I like the show. That isn't to say that I believe all of it is as they would have you beleive however; with build coverage through to sale being represented in an hour show minus commercials, I can't say that I expect any more either. I do find it odd that Ardell (sp?) has bought the majority - protecting Barry's investment maybe, loves his work, has so much money that he can do as he pleases? Regardless, jealous comes to mind for me at least.

      I've liked all the cars that I've seen so far as well. With respect to last nights show, was the Camaro a little rough - sure, was it total crap, I guess that's subjective - I've seen and started with much worse personally. I think region, budget and luck comes into play...work within your means and availability. In other words, I would have started with that shell - maybe not that much initial cost though. Crap? That makes my current 68 sewage I guess and my first 68 (lower income) ummm what's worse than sewage?

      This sort of thing happens all the time of course (at varying degrees of sucess) however with national coverage depicting fast money, I fear this will serve to put many more vehicles out of my reach by driving prices even higher. Of course that's not Barry's problem but mine.

      I love cars (as most here do), I like the show, I'm hooked but that's probably not too hard to do. I'm certainly not going to watch Survivor or whatever else is in fad these days. I still watch Byods show and I don't think there is anyone on there that I like much less the silly drama injected.

      Anyway...just some thoughts before work...later.

      /jim

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      We forget it is supposed to be entertainment. Reality tv is so far from real it becomes entertainment. Makes for good laughs in the moring around the shop. I just like to see other people have the same problems We do...repaint stuff, problems with crappy repo stuff and mechanical troubles. Will I watch future shows ...probably...until they do a import or 4x4 truck...thats when I quit watching overhauling.

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      I must say the purple GTX or whatever it is was way nicer IMO. Nothing special in the Camaro and some of the things they did to meet the "deadline" really bothered me. I didn't care for the stripes at all! If you going to put a factory stripe on the car then do it right, not their version of the Z stripes, hideous! For $57k its not even media blasted, I would love to see that car in a few years.... On the other hand that red vert was either a polished turd or someone got a smokin deal or the producers bs'd the number to make Barry's car look more high end.

      Overall not a bad show but not believable either....
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      I prefer VH1's Surreal life. Washed up rock-stars, transvestites, has-been actors. How can you go wrong?

      All I've learned from Wrecks to Riches is that Barry White is a hack. Drama or not, professionals know better than to perform major cutting and welding AFTER paint. How could they not have test fit the wheels and tires beforehand? They should change the name of the show: "The Hot Rod Amateur Hour"

      And the blurry images are driving me crazy. Maybe we should all chip in and send them a gallon of white paint and some white duct tape.
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      Only saw two whos, same guy bought the Orange Chevelle, and the Silver Camaro? At a different auction no less. That shows a joke, and is now unwatchable.

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      I know I'd be pretty sick if I bought the car and then later seen the show!

      Why even try to build the car in 2 weeks? What is the point? I do not feel it adds anything to the drama of the show. I would think a lot of the people watching this type of show are "Car" people and want to see how to build a car properly, not how fast they can build a car. I would love to see american hot rod or similar show take a whole season to build one car and be able to see the detail. I guess I must be the minority and the majority of the viewers want to see the BS drama.

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      Quote Originally Posted by streetfytr68
      All I've learned from Wrecks to Riches is that Barry White is a hack. Drama or not, professionals know better than to perform major cutting and welding AFTER paint. How could they not have test fit the wheels and tires beforehand? They should change the name of the show: "The Hot Rod Amateur Hour"
      I am with you there STREET. I can name TEN other builders with better shops, builds, staff, and personality TLC should consider before giving this tool a show. If you think I am being a little cruel, deal with it, jealousy, not even. At least on some of the other shows, they throw in a little craftmanship and even custom fab work. This may have well been a show on Earl Scheib and his quest to paint cars for $99.99. I'm over it - and by the way, American Hot Schlepp is another show that can go in the can - mainly because Boyd is a b--ch and needs to be taken out and shot. I am in a very opiniated mood this morning, thanks for reading.
      --Enzo

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      I usually just record them on the DVR. Fast forward through the drama and watch the fabrication and end result. This technique is especially efective with Boyds show and Overhaulin.

      matt

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      Glad to know that we're all qualified to refer to past winners of AMBR awards as hacks...the approach to building a 2 week car is a lot different than building an award winner, but then us professionals should know that huh?
      Yes there's a lot manufactured drama on this show, and also a lot of stuff that DOESN'T make the screen, use your imagination to figure out why, tv channels are businesses. I'm not particularly interested in following these shows after seeing some of that.
      And no I'm not employed by Boyd or Barry, though I have done work for both of them in the past. I'm certainly also not claiming that he's the best in the country because he is not, especially when it comes to muscle cars which he had very little experience with prior to this show.

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      Fuel,
      I wouldn't know anything about being an AMBR winner, but since I have hacked on my own junk numerous times, I know a good botch job when I see it.

      Some folks watched that show and now think that it's okay to:
      1) First paint car.
      2) THEN buy wheels and tires.
      3) THEN take a wiz wheel to the quarter to make it all fit.

      It would have been better for the wheels and tires to magically fit rather than to teach people the wrong way to fit wheels and tires. That scene should have been omitted--just as you described.

      Does Bob Vila tell his audience to measure once and cut twice? Barry White is fortunate enough to have a TV show. He should use that opportunity to set a good example.
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      But then where's the drama ?

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      You know Stevie, you bring up a good point...body guys always say other work has been botched. But after the same breath they do the same. When is a repair not botched and perfect?
      As far as the wheels? Maybe it was an editing mistake?

      And Fuelie, im not one to judge and I tend not to believe too much that comes out of a 32" screen either. But yes, you are right, drama brings in the ratings don't they?
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